This thread honestly blows my mind. I remember watching a bit of the livestream of the 50k final table with Chance Kornuth, who had a small piece of Owais so he was sweating him pretty hard. He only seemed to have good things to say about him but I really don't know how well he knows him. Clearly Owais is a very talented player but a bit of a weird guy, cuz from this thread it seems like hes taking a pot hole and turning it into the grand canyon.

People should include a picture with the bustout tweet like I did today

I'm sure the man feels terrible, he only did it to not look like a fish and for his investors to think he got robbed and it wasn't his fault what happened. Maybe he isnt emotionally ready to handle losing if hes so used to winning so mentally hes gotta tell the people what they expect to hear(him thinking that)

Was it even confirmed OP even had AA?

Tell us what you really think Ashley.

He prolly had KQ

Why would someone go out drinking heavily the night before a $10k with a four million dollar prize pool, especially if he's playing for investors?

"Don't ever lie, life is just too short to lie" - Joe Rogan

This thread is such a good example for why it's so much better to admit your mistakes than to try to cover them up. Look at how everyone pretty much thinks owais is sketchy and dishonest as of now. The best part is how what he was lieing about isn't even that big of a deal, just the fact that he was lieing. The attempt to cover it up just made it worse. "From my point of view I have not lied" lolllll.

His account says he had ak to her aq. Is there any chance your friend mixed up the hands?

You're kidding, right? Sick blump, Kess.

Owais Ahmed - 2011 Bracelet Winner, 2011 WPT Final Tablist - 2012 2+2 Award winner in 'most lies in a single thread' category

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I don't think what he did was right but just want to share that mis remembering a hand as he describes it is absolutely possible.

I'm a pokerblogger for 4 years now and reported on 1,000's of hands. I write down a hand in my own system with all actions shortened and when I get back to my computer I already remember the exact hand and only fact check the post I made with amounts and suits - the basic action is in my head and I replay it while writing it.

During the WSOP 2010 I wrote down a hand in my blog and the player came to me after the event and told me the hand was wrong. He said he was out of position while I reported all action as if he was in position. He said it didn't matter at all, it wasn't a special hand of any sort and the play I described wasn't bad at all, and the story he told was about the same. He just told me it was wrong.

I thought about it and thought about and just couldn't believe I had made a mistake like that and then I remembered our cameraman was there as well and taped the hand. He taped not all of it and we didn't use the footage but he still had it and we took a look to figure out who was in position. Turned out I was right. I showed it to the player and he was amazed because he saw I was right. He had the whole hand wrong in his head.

The other way around happened one time as well. I was wrong with the hand of a player and action, someone later told me. I could see the cards being flipped over in my head when I reconstructed the hand in my head and remembered all the action... but I was wrong. I just had the details on my notepad, reconstructed the hand and for the rest my imagination ran with it I guess because someone else at the table pointed out the exact same difference to me.

tl;dr - I somehow see what the OP is telling when he wrote that he remembered the hand wrong and believes in his own story.

There's a difference between not remembering if you're in/out of position and confusing top pair with bottom set.

OP; you could at least play the 'english is my 2nd language' card and use that for an reasoning for your dumbfounded explanations

webjoker, there's a big difference between "misremembering" a hand that was played by someone else that you observed for a brief moment and "misremembering" a hand that you were emotionally involved in that busted you out of a tournament. And he didn't report positions or action wrong, but the hands that were flipped over at showdown. A bad beat registers differently than realizing you got it in drawing almost dead.

I get what you were trying to say, but those situations are not really comparable at all IMO.

Josh definitely deserves a round of applause.

To the top!!!

There is always a chance, but I highly doubt it since she came over right after she busted Owais and told me that she had AK vs Owais's AQ.

I struggle to believe an old woman has AQ in her 4beting range so she must have been right.

#owaised

I struggle to believe u can go from vehement denial to brain fade to complete dsregard..not my business but fudging bust-outs seems to becoming a more prevalent in the market....arg....short of taking a photo, getting witness statements not sure how to combat...guess its honour or nothing.

Usually there is at least one person who knows you at the table in these larger events, so hand details can be verified. I usually try to snap a picture if it's a horrific beat though.

Met Owais in vegas all summer, could be literally one of the nicest people Ive met... unfortunately looks like some things went wrong ways here or misunderstood... but by far one of nicest guys ive met at the poker table and couldnt say a bad word about him

he once called for multiple levels of floor people until he got to jack effel to get someone a penalty for using the f word at the table in a 50k...

real awesome guy