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04-25-2012 , 05:24 AM
LOL, I'll take it
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04-25-2012 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Javatinii
I haven't posted this earlier, since I haven't invested in Owais personally, and also fact that I wasn't a witness of the incident first hand, and did not wish to tarnish someones reputation without first hand proof, but after stumbling across this thread, I feel obligated to mention this.

His bustout story from Day 1b on http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...event-1127430/ is a flat out fabrication.

The reason I can say this for sure is because I know the "lady who overplays her hand" very well , and she recapped the bustout hand for me right after the hand happened. She was super excited about busting a player of Owais's caliber and came over to my table to tell me about it. I was playing the same tourney.

"She raised and got 3 bet shoved on by Owais and she called. Owais had AQ and she had AK."

She mentioned about the 2p2 post of Owais about his bustout hand which she happened to stumble into around new year's eve. She is just an recreational player and does not care enough to post on 2p2.

I obviously trust her since she told me owais's hand the same day she played the event, and only saw Owais's recap of the bust out hand a month later.

I could ask her about stack sizes and stuff but that is unimportant. The important thing is that Owais did just flat out fabricate his bustout version to make it sound better, it is kinda funny and sad at the same time cuz the way I saw it, his real bustout hand was fairly standard.
Well that's understandable. I mean, some simple typos is all. Instead of "a lady who overplays hands" he obv just meant "a lady playing someone who overplays hands," and then he accidentally switched two letters in the hand history. This one is clearly nothing more than misremembering where certain letters are on the keyboard, so let's just forget it and move on.

Also, I feel obligated to mention that I was drunk last night, for no particular reason.
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04-25-2012 , 06:55 AM
^^^^
Busting 100k games would make me want to get drunk aswelll
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04-25-2012 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fslexcduck
Well that's understandable. I mean, some simple typos is all. Instead of "a lady who overplays hands" he obv just meant "a lady playing someone who overplays hands," and then he accidentally switched two letters in the hand history. This one is clearly nothing more than misremembering where certain letters are on the keyboard, so let's just forget it and move on.

Also, I feel obligated to mention that I was drunk last night, for no particular reason.
Well played.
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04-25-2012 , 11:00 AM
Yeah that hh is ridiculous. Some rando woman just 4 bet induces with good sizing with AQo for 65+ bbs.
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04-25-2012 , 11:57 AM
Javatinii sent me a message on FB to check out this thread, I had been following it indepedently. He mentioned something about it involving one of our friends and a bust out hand with Owais. I can say that Javatinii and the woman involved in the second hand would have no reason to lie about this.

It's crazy to me that not only does Owais lie about the hand, he says basically the other person in the hand is bad (overplays her hands) and also tries to set up this dynamic that it's ok for him to go broke there.

Owais, just come clean and stop doing such things. It's ok to bust tournaments. It's ok to not feel good about your play. It's not ok to lie to the people that staked you.
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04-25-2012 , 12:25 PM
This thread keeps getting better and better and I'm sure there's bigger dirt out there that hasn't been told yet. I think lying about an old lady's hand who outplayed him is worse than the aa 22 hand.
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04-25-2012 , 12:30 PM
Nobody shocked @ the old lady cold 4bet/call with AK? Grandmas getting agro and not speculating preflop anymore, what has the world come to...#nomoneyinpoker #everyone'solid
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04-25-2012 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fslexcduck
Well that's understandable. I mean, some simple typos is all. Instead of "a lady who overplays hands" he obv just meant "a lady playing someone who overplays hands," and then he accidentally switched two letters in the hand history. This one is clearly nothing more than misremembering where certain letters are on the keyboard, so let's just forget it and move on.

Also, I feel obligated to mention that I was drunk last night, for no particular reason.
loloooolool
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04-25-2012 , 01:02 PM

Last edited by Turb0Licious; 04-25-2012 at 01:02 PM. Reason: This Will Not End Well.
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04-25-2012 , 05:39 PM
Well, the 100k+ people who download our show hear the story in this week's Pokercast
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04-25-2012 , 06:27 PM
So I read this thread and decided the OP made a small mistake and I decided to take no action.

Edit: Wait, I mis-remembered, I actually removed his Marketplace Approval, he can re-apply after 6 months.
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04-25-2012 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by D.S.
So I read this thread and decided the OP made a small mistake and I decided to take no action.

Edit: Wait, I mis-remembered, I actually removed his Marketplace Approval, he can re-apply after 6 months.
You and Vanessa win this thread. Congrats.
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04-25-2012 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by oerockets
Hi everyone,

I was tweeted at today about this situation and just got back to my hotel room. Let me start off by saying this: in all my poker career, I have misplayed hands, made reads that sometimes went wrong, made reads that have gone right, but I have never lied or cheated.

For anyone who's keenly interested in this issue of me busting a 100bb effective stack on a Queen high flop with Aces, please read my bustout hand from the WSOP Main Event:

http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...=Owais%20Ahmed

There, I busted with Kings vs a set of 4s on a Queen high flop. I've done it in the past and it probably will happen again. I have no shame in how I play. Perhaps I need to get better and fix leaks, but that is another discussion.

On the 50K WSOP Players Championship final table, I made a read that Brian Rast was weak and moved in over the top of his raise with 34o. Had I been called by his A8o, people would've probably said I was an idiot or made a bad read, etc. I play my hands without conviction because I make decisions on the table that I feel is the best equity in the long run.

All this being said, I have no reason to lie. I have posted action and will continue to post action on this forum, as well as sell action privately. I sold action to the 50k Player Championship to Ben Lamb, Jason Mercier, Jason Sommerville and their share was about 48k each. If I was going to lie or cheat, that seems like a good time to do it.

On top of all this, I know I am a recognizable player within the poker community, my hands are watched over by reporters and sometimes cameras. I had no shame in reporting my hand from Bay 101 when I got all in preflop on the money bubble with AK vs AK vs AA. That is the worst equity spot ever in a tournament given I had an above average stack, but hey I did it.

Lastly, I want to say this. Hands are reported by observers and sometimes they are wrong. No one remembers your own hands like you do. Other players are playing with ipods, words with friends, whatever. You're in the hand for your tournament life and you know how it played out. Please look at my bustout hand from the 2010 WSOP Stud Hi:

http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...=Owais%20Ahmed

Here I am at a WSOP Final Table and my hand was MISREPORTED by a Poker Media Reporter. Yes, a professional poker reporter (using the term professional loosely). I remember the exact details of this hand and every other hand I played on that final table because it was my first final table, and a big moment in my poker career. In this hand, I actually had (8d 4d) 5d to start, and hit Jd on fourth street, giving me a four flush in a three way pot on 4th street. This is a spot where I 100% go with my hand, as the winner of this pot would be chipleader (essentially, my inflection point). Instead, the reporter wrote down Jc for my 4th street card, making it look like I went broke with Jack high/no draw. Observers make mistakes on details; when you're in the hand you don't.

I don't know who GoStateGo is personally, and have never met or spoken with him. He does have a lot of posts on this site. Perhaps he mistook someone else for me, or made a mistake as an observer. I don't know what else to say, other than what I reported was 100% accurate.
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04-26-2012 , 01:31 AM
Just wow at this thread, I was in the same camp as many thinking that he had made a silly mistake by lying and then refused to own up to it when caught in the lie. After the second story about the AQ v AK hand I'm really blown away someone would go to such lengths to deceive people that trusted him with their money.

If I thought a player was a good investment and they posted something like "hey I ****ed up my bust hand" I definitely wouldn't think less of them and wouldn't even be discouraged from buying their action in the future. I can't imagine trusting Owais after this whole mess though, it is really unfortunate that he felt the need to lie about his bustout hands.
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04-26-2012 , 07:59 AM
I think its more likely than most ppl think that he subconsciously rewrote the hh or something since he couldn't consciously cope with the fact that he got his stack in w/ 5% equity in a 10k. There was a study which asked ppl where they were the day after 9/11 then two years later asked them again and a ridiculously high % were wrong even though they were positive they were right and could recall the most minute details.
Still like 90% a lie though.
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04-26-2012 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rmoriar1
I think its more likely than most ppl think that he subconsciously rewrote the hh or something since he couldn't consciously cope with the fact that he got his stack in w/ 5% equity in a 10k. There was a study which asked ppl where they were the day after 9/11 then two years later asked them again and a ridiculously high % were wrong even though they were positive they were right and could recall the most minute details.
Still like 90% a lie though.
This wasn't 2 years later though. this was the next day. Very different. And it's not like he thought he lost to 2 pair but the guy had a set...He said he took a bad beat when in reality he got it in way behind. Those two things feel very different at the table. When you get it in way ahead and lose to trip queens on the river, you feel a much different feeling than when you get it in behind and still lose. There is almost no way that he "thought" he took a bad beat less than 24 hours later after Gostatego already pointed out that he clearly knew he was behind and packed up to leave on the turn. The mind doesn't just erase something like that so quickly, unless of course you have some serious emotional problems
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04-26-2012 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by oerockets
Another hand that shows the level of play: I raised preflop with KTs (75/150 level so I made it 350). SB and BB call. SB has 4k effective to start the hand.

Flop comes Js 6d 2s. Checks to me, pot is 1050, so I bet 500. SB calls. Turn comes 2c. Pot is 2050, SB has ~3200 left. He was the touristy type, so I thought that if I put him all in for his tournament life, he'd fold. I shove turn, he calls with Tens. Yes, he flatted pre flop with Tens with his stack, then check called all in over two streets. Although he technically made the 'right' call vs my exact hand (but crushed by my range IMO), I thought the play was horrible.
I hate when people try to validate themselves as poker players by talking about how awful other people play.
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05-15-2012 , 04:27 PM
We can't just let this thing off the first page!
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05-15-2012 , 04:47 PM
Lol, yeah I thought 2+2 went down at a convenient time for this dude.
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05-15-2012 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FatalError
We can't just let this thing off the first page!
haha i was wondering who would do the honor
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05-16-2012 , 01:55 PM
Wow at thread
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05-16-2012 , 03:59 PM
lol bumping this even tho it's gonna push my wsop thread back to the 2nd page. such a ridic thread.
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05-16-2012 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
There is just no way anyone who can make such poor decisions in a thread over and over again could ever be a good investment to begin with. Its like you have done the exact opposite of what any intelligent person would do every time you were presented with a choice, not sure I have ever seen someone dig themselves into such a deep hole over such an innocent thing.
This is really spot on, and I believe you can draw an easy comparison. I've played live poker quite a bit this year and there are people who consider themselves very good players and wear sunglasses who will stare you down in order to get a read then make the absolute worst decision possible nearly every time. That's pretty much exactly what happened in this thread.
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05-19-2012 , 07:24 AM
bump
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