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WPT HOLLYWOOD ME - Owais Ahmed - 2011 Bracelet Winner, 2011 WPT Final Tablist WPT HOLLYWOOD ME - Owais Ahmed - 2011 Bracelet Winner, 2011 WPT Final Tablist

04-23-2012 , 08:21 PM
Ive known Owais for several years....and this just leaves me shakin my head, im rather perplexed.
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04-24-2012 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by lilman2636
Give it a rest already! seriously. Guy made a mistake and now he has to live with the fact he is now being labeled that. Really doubt 2p2 needs anymore here say, honest players are still trying to sell their wsop packages.

MOD please lock thread or move it to NVG or Mtt community! for the sake of honest sellers and buyers whom want better things to do than to read everyones opinion about op.
lol what? No reason to lock or move the thread, it belongs here in the Marketplace. If honest sellers wants better things to do they dont have to open the thread.
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04-24-2012 , 05:20 AM
Crossing my fingers for another lie and digging himself even deeper
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04-24-2012 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lilman2636
Give it a rest already! seriously. Guy made a mistake and now he has to live with the fact he is now being labeled that. Really doubt 2p2 needs anymore here say, honest players are still trying to sell their wsop packages.

MOD please lock thread or move it to NVG or Mtt community! for the sake of honest sellers and buyers whom want better things to do than to read everyones opinion about op.
Uhh yeah no wtf? I read the marketplace a lot and someone had to point me to this thread since I just skip past most of them. Now I know I'll never invest a single dollar in Owais in the future.
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04-24-2012 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
There is just no way anyone who can make such poor decisions in a thread over and over again could ever be a good investment to begin with. Its like you have done the exact opposite of what any intelligent person would do every time you were presented with a choice, not sure I have ever seen someone dig themselves into such a deep hole over such an innocent thing.
lol, that's a bingo.
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04-24-2012 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Turb0Licious
Wow this is really blowing up huh? Makes you think how much this actually happens IMO. The one thing that bothers me is the drinking, not so much that he drinks but the fact he harped on it so much in his OP that he's not here to party etc. When I first read that, I was like hell yeah dude focused. Now I'm like wait, what? So he is here to party and drink?

The whole lying about the hand thing is absurd, I mean alls he had to say was "Oh shyt, I must have had my head in a different place, I apologize for the confusion" Instead of digging himself a whole of perplexed psychology of his state of mind, what others interpreted that hand to be and what is actually was.

People tend to forget and it's unfortunate for them, but the marketplace has eyes and it's always watching.

I'm not surprised. I don't know him personally, but because of the way he trolled one of my previous MP threads, I would say this is right in line with his character.

Classless. You lie blatantly about the hand to seem as if everyone was sucking out on you. Then you backtrack by saying you drank to much and it has clogged your memory? I don't know what's worse. Someone who parties the night before a 10K event, with other peoples monies, or a liar.
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04-24-2012 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamaal84
Can you explain the drinking thing? Are you saying you drank heavily the night before playing, while playing, or the night after? The first 2 certainly don't make you look any better, as if you were so hungover or drunk during the tournament that you don't know how you busted, that's not responsible when you have people investing in your success
The drinking thing was in reference to AFTER the event, not before. I posted my bustout hand the day after I did bust out. I never drink before or during a tournament.

During the entire WSOP, I drank exactly once - not even after I won my bracelet, only when I had a break from the 50k and Main Event.
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04-24-2012 , 01:30 PM
So are you saying that you believe those witnesses did not lie and that you assume that drinking after the event made you forget the true details of the hand?

I'd like to think that even after drinking I could remember if i got it in good or bad in a 10k but if you can't you probably should stop drinking
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04-24-2012 , 01:47 PM
So even if you got black out drunk afterwards, that ususally doesn't involve having memory loss from the events beforehand.
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04-24-2012 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by oerockets
The weird thing about all this is when I think back about the hand, I still see it the exact same way I described. From my point of view, I have not lied. Maybe it was the drinking plus whatever else happened the night before. Maybe that changed my perspective on the situation. I dont know, but thats not an excuse. I think back on the situation and I see the hand play in my head the same way. The funny thing is I even talked to a poker buddy about the hand before I posted it.


Owais
Your statement says drinking from the night before.
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04-24-2012 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CammyCash
Your statement says drinking from the night before.
He probably believes he's not lying. Maybe it was the drinking yesterday that made him forget if he drank the day before or after
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04-24-2012 , 02:18 PM
Weird thread, but its funny/ironic when someone who has rolled before calls out someone elses character.
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04-24-2012 , 02:22 PM
its amazing that a poker player thinks he can convince a bunch of poker players that he mis-remembers a hand this wildly. cut yer losses mate.
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04-24-2012 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CammyCash
Your statement says drinking from the night before.
WELP

All OPs responses since gettin called out are cringeworthy. Sorta reminds me of a second cousin I have who is diagnosed w/ Borderline Personality Disorder, awkkkward.
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04-24-2012 , 02:54 PM
one of the most bizarre, eery threads ive ever read on 2p2.

amazing the a relatively irrelevant lie about a bustout hand has spawned more controversy than if he skipped the tournament and made up a bust out hand.

more poasts pls OP.
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04-24-2012 , 03:00 PM
I have invested in Owais in the past and never had a problem. This thread makes me smh. Owais has made me very very good returns in the past and we never had a problem anything like this. I really really hope Owais just comes totally clean so he can move on.
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04-24-2012 , 03:06 PM
There's a pretty big difference between forgetting the details of a hand you played a long time ago, and describing a hand in painstaking detail with lots of relevant, specific information shortly after busting, and having those details be flat out false.


Basically, I echo MM's thoughts on the situation, which is that even if a magical fairy could somehow ensure that Owais would never lie/scam for the rest of his life, I wouldn't invest another penny in someone whose decision making process is so shortsighted and, for lack of a better word, stupid.
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04-24-2012 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rrinker
I have invested in Owais in the past and never had a problem. This thread makes me smh. Owais has made me very very good returns in the past and we never had a problem anything like this. I really really hope Owais just comes totally clean so he can move on.
Pretty sure I can come clean for him:

1) busted in a non-optimal fashion (not even that bad really), knew it then, as evident by him getting up to go
2) decided to lie about it IN DETAIL for some odd reason.
3) two ppl confirmed his detailed story was completely false.
4) continued to lie about it for some odd reason
5) now is chalking it up to bad memory/drinking/'agree to disagree' for some odd reason.

nothing really needs to be cleared up, i think its pretty obvious this is what happened. why is happened? idk some odd reason i guess.
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04-24-2012 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bbbbb33
Pretty sure I can come clean for him:

1) busted in a non-optimal fashion (not even that bad really), knew it then, as evident by him getting up to go
2) decided to lie about it IN DETAIL for some odd reason.
3) two ppl confirmed his detailed story was completely false.
4) continued to lie about it for some odd reason
5) now is chalking it up to bad memory/drinking/'agree to disagree' for some odd reason.

nothing really needs to be cleared up, i think its pretty obvious this is what happened. why is happened? idk some odd reason i guess.

+1

All he had to say was busted AA to a set of 2's lol poker.
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04-24-2012 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CammyCash
Your statement says drinking from the night before.
I interpreted that as the night before making the twitter post, not the night before the mtt. Apparently there was some time between his bust out and the update on twitter. Either way, lol humans.
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04-24-2012 , 04:40 PM
Honestly OE you may as well just say you lied, you already look as foolish as possible. Poor kid probably thought people would forget about this thread amid ft news!
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04-25-2012 , 02:09 AM
I haven't posted this earlier, since I haven't invested in Owais personally, and also fact that I wasn't a witness of the incident first hand, and did not wish to tarnish someones reputation without first hand proof, but after stumbling across this thread, I feel obligated to mention this.

His bustout story from Day 1b on http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...event-1127430/ is a flat out fabrication.

The reason I can say this for sure is because I know the "lady who overplays her hand" very well , and she recapped the bustout hand for me right after the hand happened. She was super excited about busting a player of Owais's caliber and came over to my table to tell me about it. I was playing the same tourney.

"She raised and got 3 bet shoved on by Owais and she called. Owais had AQ and she had AK."

She mentioned about the 2p2 post of Owais about his bustout hand which she happened to stumble into around new year's eve. She is just an recreational player and does not care enough to post on 2p2.

I obviously trust her since she told me owais's hand the same day she played the event, and only saw Owais's recap of the bust out hand a month later.

I could ask her about stack sizes and stuff but that is unimportant. The important thing is that Owais did just flat out fabricate his bustout version to make it sound better, it is kinda funny and sad at the same time cuz the way I saw it, his real bustout hand was fairly standard.

Last edited by Javatinii; 04-25-2012 at 02:14 AM.
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04-25-2012 , 02:48 AM
lol. gg owais
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04-25-2012 , 04:23 AM
and thaaaaaaaaaaaat's the ballgame
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04-25-2012 , 04:30 AM
Ouch dude
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