It's 100% the OP's approach to this situation and his attitude.

The money he has in his account is NOT his money. He didn't pay back his backers when he chose to not play the event they bought a piece of. Whether or not he has no money after paying the backers, or would have to borrow money to pay them or whatever is not his backers' problem, it's his own. He should've bought into the events right away to avoid this problem or he should still have the money sitting in his account.

Since he doesn't have the full amount to pay back, the RIGHT thing to do would've been to transfer 100% of the money he had to people, apologize/explain the situation, and then hope that someone still finds him trustworthy enough to stake. As it is, he's taking money which was supposed to be for one purpose, and he's using it to play something else, basically he's forced the people who bought action to be staking him - yet they're not seeing any profit. In a real cash game staking deal, the backers get 50% or whatever of the profit. Here he's using their money, which he's not supposed to be playing with anyway, to try and make up money he lost doing things he shouldn't have been doing.

The OP has handled this wrong at every turn, starting with the fact that he didn't even come out and post that he hadn't played the Main Event, he waited until one of the backers checked on it and called him out. The whole thing seems shady as hell and the OP might've had a chance to repair his rep if he came clean at the start, repaid what he had and then tried to get a stake to pay the rest.

100%. I invested probably 20k+ in this forum for the World Series and there is 0 chance I spend the same amount next year because of this thread, the HIV thread and then another good amount of people doing a horrendous job of giving updates on what is happening with our money. I would be surprised if any of us that spent a lot here this year do the same next year.

lol pujols thats a ridic bad try to be 2+2.cool
obviously this forum tends towards flaming and hating everyone that does not have the opinion of the vast majority... poor

I hope this is a joke. Did you even look at his PTRs before you posted this? Even if he were a "proven online cash game winner", he has lost all credibility and does not deserve a second chance. All he has done so far is try to delay the inevitable by cooking up stories. It just keeps getting worse.

Also, nobody has every suggested that he should pay CTS first and then the rest of us. People are asking him to pay the proportion of what he has and what he owes to his investors.

pofigistika - maryhadalamb (Exeter) for pokerstars

Sorry, I meant Full Tilt screenames. I'm sending the money back on FT. And the screenshot wasn't photoshopped; I suspect the reason the $ was on the left is because I never made a real money deposit on the account.

How did you have a good session just now when PTR shows you haven't played since may 31?

The only thing that doesn't make sense is pretty much your entire post. OP claims to have $8,100 and owes $6,840. If he's grinding that up, he's using other people's money to build himself a bigger roll.

If the cashier's been shopped, then that's a different story. You think they might want their money back because they're a little concerned about how he manages it?

Anyway, OP is claiming he's going to ship now, so we'll see if this has a happy ending.

I played on Cake, UB and Victory, and then transfered all of it back onto FT to make things easier, sitting at 10k now.

Trans4m (M) wizard

Ninjas, obv.

So you had other money all along on other sites and haven't paid people back?

ok so im sorry i (partially) missunderstood the thread and somehow missed he did have more than he owes.

waiting for my payment ill post in this thread as soon as i get it

So you did'nt scam anyone? Then why did you make a new 2+2 handle and FTP sns?

even if that wasnt the case the majority stake holder has posted multiple times itt he wants his cut of the stake back without this degen "grinding up" his account on money that is not his.

we just gonna ignore this question like the all the others?

pofigistka is sbruckme on tilt (E, dog i think)

I received my transfer.

ty i guess

Maybe we could let this go more than 16 minutes while we see if he starts shipping money, then grill him on it after.

To the investors: I apologize for not sending back right away. This will be over and done with when I get the aforementioned FT sn's.

New 2+2 sn for unrelated personal reasons that I won't say because no one in this thread believes what I say anyway. New FT sn for RB purposes; my current account didn't get RB for the longest time. And like I said, I'm sure the $ discrepancy is because I never made a real money deposit on the screename.

The money was on multiple sites. Then I transfered the majority of it to FT, pretty simple explanation.

Received as well, thanks probably won't invest again tho. Obviously approach was terrible in the end, but you have ended up paying out faster than quite a few other horses... You certainly could have handled the situation a lot better

Whether or not he ends up shipping and this ends successfully, wouldn't a more competent plan of actions be

a) send everyone their money back (NOT grind it up)
b) work at McDonalds for a week
c) deposit $200 pay check
d) grind that $200 up (if $200 isn't enough to work with, you suck)
e) quit McDonalds

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you invest here again and your a insane