you might have a lot experience "poker-wise" and "management-wise" but you are extremely lacking in integrity. you've made 1000 posts in 1.5 years yet you went a month without posting here even after you bustoed the main event roll.

even if you were just a simple degen who busted the roll you could have came here and explained it and told people how you were going to make them whole. you didn't, you avoided the thread, lurked, and have made vague posts about how you will still make people whole it just will take some time and that they should "calmdown."

it's been almost a week since you told people that you didn't play and you lost the money. if you are really a lock to grind this money back you'd be updating your progress daily with screen shots or at least more information than you have.

what you should do is pay the rest of the money back and then go try to get a stake somewhere lower. even with this ****ed up thread you could still probably get a stake at 25 or 50 nl and risklessly grind back the money over a month or two.

i urge you to reconsider your stance. in the case that you are just naive and don't understand the error of your ways it is NOT too late to make this situation right. you can restore your reputation and make your investors 90% whole within the next 30 minutes. in 1-2 months you can be out of the mess and back to being a respected member of this community.

good luck.

LOL he was just playing a $100 tournament on Stars, 100% risk free IMO...

I have no stake in this but I really really hate you OP

Great Wall--

I guess you haven't been around long--if you'd paid everyone back with the money you have, you definitely could have kept a good enough reputation for the future. It might not seem that way (and maybe it shouldn't be that way), but history clearly indicates it's so.

Your attitude in the last few posts is something that people are likely to remember as long or longer than your initial irresponsibility. You would do very well for yourself to give everyone's money back now, if in fact you do have it (you say you do, but I'm far from convinced). I hope you make the right decision.

All my best,

--Nate

also lol at this statement, as if you know the financial situation of your backers and have the right to make that determination for them with THEIR money.

Ok, very much appreciated. I guess I was making baseless allegations.

I don't trust your intentions. You might not like it but unless you start sending the money back, you are absolutely stealing from everyone. How do you not get this?

You might not want to admit it but you are playing with investors money. How is this not clear to you? Are you seriously this delusional?

lol, I mean WTF at this? Do you realize nobody trusts you with their money? Not enough can be said about your attitude in this thread.




This is your way of saying. Hell yeah I ****ed up but I am just gonna do what I want. **** everybody else. A huge lol at your attitude in this entire thread.

Give me one good reason why I should calm down. Post the screenshot first.

sigh, i always feel so bad when good people who invest a ton of money (prof, jorj, cts etc etc) have to deal with scum like this.


just send the money back and get this over and done with. please make the right decision and send the money back.

im speechless after reading this.

it's not our problem you have no roll after paying your debts, you should have planned better. deal with it.

+1 for sure, all of TheGreatWall responses have been so full of fail

TGW: I don't believe you are ignorant enough to fail to see what the correct course of action is. I appreciate it will take courage to sacrifice your own comfort for the sake of others, yet you forfeited the right to this when you failed to play the tournament. I for one would be more peeved at being paid back in full at a later date, than if you failed to respect the groundswell of opinion from your investors and divvy up what you have at the moment. Good luck with making the right decision.

Greatwall, while your actions so far haven't been very good, you could start changing your ways. Some people are doubting you even have the roll you claim to have, so while you think screenshots are unnecessary, it'd be nice to provide some and at least reassure your investors that you're grinding and making an effort.

This encompasses the thought process of about 90% of those that have ever owed me money. It's just so tilting to keep hearing this.

wow, do the right thing OP.

A kid work's at McDonald's and asks his parents for a $1,000 loan. He blows most of the loan on drugs, but he didn't intend to. Every week when he cashes his $200 paycheck, he doesn't pay his parents anything because why bother paying some back if he can't pay it all back. He never pays his parents back since he never has more than $200.

TheGreatWall, I think that kid is you. You need to grow up in a hurry. I hope some of the people you are ripping off that have lot's of money take it very, very personally.

What is OP's real name?

This is so fd up

I suspect that OP has hardly any money in his accounts. He said he's been "grinding and winning" in post #99, but if you look at his tournament results, he's been consistently losing on both sites ever since May ~15th when he got the transfers, and his PTR shows he hasn't played cash since May 31st, and lost a few buyins at 1-2 in May as well.

My guess would be this "I need to grind" is covering up the fact that he's near busto, but by all means post screenshots to prove me wrong!

Why isn't the OP at least posting screen shots of his BR and updating everyone on the progress of his "grinding" (Not that I am in any way advising or condoning he shouldn't pay back right away). He just comes in and post every once in a blue moon and posts some kind of vague and infuriating (to his investors at least) response to their demands. Thegreatwall you really are acting in a horrible manner and have zero integrity. I really doubt that he has any intentions of paying anyone back. The way he has dealt with this is just appalling. Seriously just pay back the money if you have it and then worry about getting yourself a new poker roll again.

We have this guy's real name right? Can someone PM it to me?

without even looking into any of it this was the easy read. anyone stalling like this either has zero intention of paying back or is lying about their current ability to do so if they were so inclined. it magnifies the original offense.

man I haven't been so tilted reading a rolled stakee's replies since jesse vilchez. don't become him OP.

lol this is redic......it seems like he is just avoiding the whole situation......

pm sent

Send back whatever u have if u have any. Then grind the rest yourself, and send that too.
Get some god damn common sense!

if your roll is 6k send 3k of that to investors at least it shows your willing to pay things back ! not ideal in any sense of the word but better than nothing and a token payment of 50% of there money

But that's his roll, he has 0 of their money! LOL. This is so disgusting. OP pay what you can back.

im not ivested here but..w/e
op, the post you hope to make in 1 or 2 months time bout how you have grinded and payed everyone back as was your word is irrelevant dude...u must see what everyone is saying is undisputable...Geezus if u now have 7kish as u claim send the 6k out at least and grind the 1g lower for the remainder..

wow, just wow ... didnt think the thread could get any worse when i read that he didnt play in the ME and busted backers money, but srsly are you ****** joking around???

Please do the right ****** thing and ship the investors money back (no, your not going to be bankrupt when u send their OWN MONEY to them, because you sir went bankrupt when you lost the respected backers money), so please sit down and make a plan how to deal with this and pls dont think you can make some kinda "shortcut" to come out of this (trying to bink the sunday mirrion etc.) bcuz thats even more ridic. Best thoughts to all the investors and to you "GreatWall" Please do the right thing now, they dont want to HURT you or "angelshoot" you they just want their MONEY.