The guy isnt even remorseful he cant see he has done anything wrong, well he did @ the start of the thread, I cant see him having the balls to offer up more cash.

Its such a shame it took CTS to do a bit of digging before he started paying. - has anyone sent this thread to FTP yet to highlight the multi accounting?

Just sent my ftp info to TGW via PM.

Probably wouldn't be real helpful for those looking to get paid were his accounts to be frozen.

yes I realise that,

didnt make it clear in my post - but I think that would be the next excuse from him..

Money's been sent to everyone.

Rcvd $600, thanks to mods for taking time/effort to ensure everyone has been reimbursed.

kingal3x: You are literally too stupid to insult.
TheGreatWall: Thank you.

I forgot to thank the mods/others who tried to reason with OP and convinced him to do the right thing in the end. Thank you.

Now that all the payments are received, I am not sure if I am allowed to post this guy's real name in this thread. I do not see what the problem could be. But I will wait for a mod to confirm. This is obviously to help others make a decision for any future stakes in case he opens up another 2p2 account etc. God knows how many accounts he has on 2p2 and other sites. I want to make sure people like OP get what they deserve. I have pm'ed a couple of investors with his real name as per their request. If any investors need that info, pls let me know.

Reg the arguments about OP shipping back half the profits from cash games played using backer's money: I don't think it will happen. It took us a few days to convince him to send the money back and he still believes he never did anything wrong. I do not know if it is worth our time to reason with him again.

From the SSNL FTP Regs thread:

TheGreatWall: "That's one way of looking at it. I perceived the situation as I lost the money they staked me for the tournament, but I still had my own roll separate from that money. In my eyes I was playing my money, and I would use that to get back their money. Everyone else looked at it the other way around."
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=18674

This line of thinking is completely absurd. No explanation necessary.

So basically the money they gave you allowed you to do things like this:

Buy 4% of cZglory for the WSOP ME (6/27/10):
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...0&postcount=22

Buy 1% of shaundeeb for the 25k (6/27/10):
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9&postcount=31

And say: "I really need $550 on stars today to play some tourneys; I have full tilt. Can anyone help me out?" (7/4/10)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=103

What were you going to do with the profits if you were successful with any of the above? Their money allowed you to take such large risks as a percentage of your bankroll.

At $6,000 in NET WORTH, you are not rolled to be doing the above activities. In fact you are barely rolled for living without your parents. You put their money and the ability to pay them back at risk without their knowledge. They should be paid back for the recklessness and risk you incurred without their knowledge.

Your assertion about this stake being not legally enforceable is completely uninformed, arrogant, and utterly besides the point. Your assumptions about people's financial stability or comfort are also absurd. People probably thought you didn't have to worry too much about money either with the Maserati and the high stakes tournaments but you are admittedly broke.

Admit that you are wrong. Fix your life. Become a better person so that one day you can look back at this with humility.

seriously, what a ****tard

Originally Posted by TheGreatWall View Post
LOL. reading this makes me happy.

I'm new here so maybe I'm missing something, but who the hell ships monies to randoms on the internet who they possible don't know at all, or only through the forum?

please, just go away.




someone with all his info needs to write up a post in negative feedback. a long post. everyone in the community would greatly appreciate it. ty

Its hard to tell whether some ppl are legitimately just not that smart and they don't know the concept of debt/which money belongs to who/how to hold up your end of a deal.

Or whether they are just POS scammers that freeroll other ppls money in an attempt to hit a huge score/ have shaun deeb bink a 25k for them.

I have no vested financial or emotional interest in this thread but seriously cmon.

Also ontario_tory is one of my favourite posters on here.

Couldn't wish for a player to busto his account more then you TGW. You seem like you're genuinely ******ed though so maybe it's your parents fault.

you're not helping yourself issuing legal pronouncements and judgments on relative value of money to different persons.

haven't caught up on this all yet but if you've in fact paid back i'd prob not expect this to be over for you

siiiiiiigh

wow

1 left.

I cannot confirm for him, but I am pretty sure CTS got his money too!

Sorry have been AFK. I got a transfer for $3,000, is that the right amount?

yeah, 25% with 20% markup should be 3000. I believe he played all the prelims.

I was pretty sure as well, but I wanted to be 100%.

No problem, thanks.

Everyone has now confirmed as paid. On to the next step.

**** you OP

You need to see a psychiatrist ASAP.

Holy ****...