just sick how he denied it all and said it was absurd that we thought he rolled on investors especially since it was only 1k and he wouldn't risk his rep over a small amount like that. I hope you learn from this and most importantly pay all investors back in a timely matter

Ive known Rob since he was 17 and showed up at my home game with a friend of mine over 7 years ago. This is completely out of the norm for him to do something like this.
Ive known him to be one of the most honest people ive ever know. For two years straight every sunday we would grind online at his place and mine.
I even once left $200 cash at his place not even knowing it and he called me a told me i dropped my money and i came back and got it.
Yes, he admitted it, i know this. But for him to commit poker suicide to me means he was desperate and there are circumstances surrounding on why. Though, doing this is highly unacceptable, i will still call Rob my friend and i would still trust him with my money.
And yes, i know the circumstances why this was done and it was the act of a man in a very sticky situation.

I have been a member of this forum since 2007 and my username is really hustler730, i couldnt remember for life of me my password nor the email i signed up with.

West Side Gangster...

Sure, the confession came two hours before but the situation came to light the previous night and he still had his MP Approval until it was reported two hours after he confessed. But, hey, you guys don't read every post...

What is your point exactly? He was going to put a package up during that timeframe while this thread was the first thread on the first page nearly all day?

You are getting upset over nothing. Mods in this forum do a fine job. It's not the end of the world if you have to alert a mod to handle an issue like this.

^lol

seriously bro, chill out, its all taken care of.

It's all very well to come in here and write a heartfelt story about how he is a great guy and your friend and you trust him - well that doesn't mean other people should...he went to great lengths to try and steal the money invested in him...as has been noted by a number of people, this can only be harmful to those of us who depend on being able to sell in this great marketplace, which we have the privilege of being able to use...I don't know what situation he found himself in but there must have been other ways of trying to get out of it without spinning a web of deceit here in the staking section...it's sad to see these threads popping up way more than they need to...while back I was scammed out of hundreds of dollars, along with a bunch of people in here by a guy who is happily winning high stakes tournaments on euro sites, playing with our money - money that we need to pay bills and rent...I'm not saying you don't deserve a chance to make right what you've done but you certainly owe the people who you went to great lengths to scam, big time

NDfan deserves tons of credit for looking into this. Questions need to be answered about other packages that were sold also, like the WSOPc incident that he claims the same thing happened to him. GL to all investors and hope he makes it all right .

^I just followed through on a rumor, no credit wanted. I was still hoping it was untrue all the way until his confession. Hopefully it all gets settled, and most importantly the marketplace here doesnt miss a beat.

I also agree with this idea. If major organizations like the WSOP and WPT can make this information public, I am sure other casinos can too. The minor privacy concerns are far out weighed by the transparency benefits.

I feel we need to petition these tourney directors on making it standard to publish complete entry lists. I really dont see any reason why they can't.

Ryan Rinker case??? I follow him on twitter and he seems very well-respected. What did he do??

Just sent 50% back to the following people...

GrimeRat420
mjcace
NDfan
astraube

Rrinker, I just loaded some paypal so it should be up by tomorrow and I will send you your 50% as well.

You guys can confirm itt if you'd like.

Hi guys.

Thought I would give a few thoughts on this as this has the potential to put the live investors off quite a bit, which would be a darn shame due to the success that 2p2 has brought with backing players over the years.

Firstly, I understand the OP getting into financial difficulty and how he must have felt at the time with him making a decision on what to do. He should ask himself this, what would he have done had he not had the investors money at the time? Temptation got in the way and I am glad eventually that the truth came to fruition thankfully.

I am not here to tell you how to rectify or berate you about the situation, purely to critique and offer some constructive criticism. We all get into tough spots, for some people 1000 dollars or pounds is nothing and to others it is a months salary. At the end of the day what you done was wrong and is classified as theft. If I were to receive money from anybody that is not for my own personal use and I decide to spend it then I would fully expect to be prosecuted for my wrongdoings. You appear to have got off of this very lightly in my opinion and if I were you, then you should offer some sort of compensation to investors: maybe an extra 10% on top of what they invested when you are in a sounder financial footing would soften the blow of technically being scammed. That's not for me to decide, its all dependant upon yourself and how you are as a human being.

You appeared to have went to great lengths to cover up your betrayal, you would have gotten away with it had you not foolishly sold to players in your area and casino. Man, what were you thinking, did you set out to con people from the off? If so then its time that you had a hard look at yourself in the mirror and question your morals. I don't think that this was the case after reading the thread but you yourself will know the truth, you are the only one who can come out and say. People will judge you and they have every right to, its how you respond that counts.

I am glad that you confessed and didn't do the cowardly thing and walk away like so many people do on here, for that I applaud you. Now you need to show these people and return the faith that they had in you to start with by settling up, even if it takes a while till you have the liquid funds available. Get a repayment plan sorted and try at all counts stick to it.

I really hope that this is a lesson learnt by the OP and any other potential scammers that the truth does come out eventually, you cant kid a kidder as my old man used to say and to be a liar you need a great memory. Unfortunately us humans always let things slip and that's when the downward spiral starts for a liar.

Please I do not hope that this thread ruins the MP for selling both live and online as I would hold you partly accountable if the MP were to become an untrustworthy environment. Do the correct thing, come in here and tell the truth. People want to know what you were thinking and also how you got the dodgy receipts etc.

If you ask me then you should be banned once this has been finalised and repayed, not permanently but for a duration of at least 6 months. That way then you can assess where you went wrong and reflect on your wrongdoings.

I wish everyone success in buying and selling action in the foreseeable future in a safe market but one that you need to be on guard at all times. As a buyer and a seller myself, its important for the staker and stakee to feel safe and secure in the knowledge that they will be treated with honesty and integrity.

Good luck at the tables everyone and may the flop be with you!

Regards

98harkw aka Will IRL.

WTF dude?

First of all, right, the mods don't read every post, or even close to it. I suspect there's a very good chance no mod had even seen the thread until you reported it. And even if they had, I doubt they would have removed approval immediately rather than just waiting until this morning to see what came of everything. Pretty close to zero chance that he starts a new thread in the meantime and no one notices this anyway.

But sorry the volunteer mods don't stay on the forums 24/7 reading every last post in the forum so they can be on situations 5 minutes after they happen, and instead rely on reports from the thousands of posters that are already involved in and reading these threads anyway. It's a shame that this free service that 2+2 offers isn't up to your standards, but guys like you really make the time and effort we spend cleaning up situations oh so worthwhile.

Anyway, in spite of your tone, thanks again for reporting the post. Seriously. And nice work by those who stayed on this case until the OP felt forced to confess. Hopefully everyone gets their money back, and feel free to report this thread as necessary if OP isn't making things happen.

don't even bother responding to him Bobo. you do an incredible job in this forum and don't need your time wasted by ignorant/stupid posts

and wrt to this thread, big sigh. although very impressed with how investors and other 2p2ers worked together to get to the bottom of this. and seriously, taylor is indeed the voice of logic.

I vote NDfan Marketplace security, anyone 2nd that but seriously, great job bro

I totally agree with directors making the complete entry list public. This should be standard. Poker has grown into a business and posting the full entrants list will give the extra piece of mind to investors.

I also agree with taking pics of receipt and starting stack but this needs to be submitted to Twitter or the thread prior to the tournament starting. This way your table and seat number is posted for investors who may want to check or have a friend check on the players table.

lol this ravages

also, yeah sucks to see this happen. rob was a cool kid in my past interactions with him but hadn't spoke to him in quite a while. glad he payed everyone back but still unfortunate to see him ruin his rep like this.

Confirmed 50% received

Tourney directors have a lot to do already, now if we charge them with also policing against these types of scams, what do they get in return for the extra work involved? Mike Savage would be the one to ask if it's feasible or not. If there's any reason why it shouldn't be done, he would know.

They get all the rake we payed & potentially more players/rake if investors feel more comfortable about investing.

Received 50% from OP.

Received 50% back as well.

Not asking them to police, just push a few buttons and post the entry's on their website. Really isn't asking much at all.

I think people should have to pay a vig if they're caught like this guy.....In the real world had this happened, he would have faced both financial and criminal repercussions - on 2p2 he faces neither. There should be some kind of % he must pay ontop of the original stake for this whole scenario.