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05-20-2010 , 01:27 AM
Schedule:
5/27 1pm, 4pm, 8pm(3 of them) $2250 8game Super Sats to 50k players champ
5/30 5pm $1500 Omaha/8
6/1 5pm $2500 2-7 Triple Draw
6/2 noon $1500 NL
6/4 5pm $1500 LHE
6/5 noon $1000 NL
6/9 noon $2000 LHE
6/10 5pm $1500 7 Card Stud
6/14 5pm $1500 Stud/8
6/16 5pm $1500 HORSE
6/19 5pm $3000 HORSE
6/24 noon $2500 LHE/NL mix
6/26 5pm $2500 8-game
6/28 noon $1500 NL
6/30 5pm $1500 LHE Shootout
7/1 noon $1000 NL

I am a hudge bumhunter, so I have customized my schedule to what I think my highest eROI% events are. As usual, I'm dropping events I'm good at that will have tough field (6m LHE).

In regards to the 50k super sats, the stake is just for the super sats themselves. I will not be playing the 50k on this stake even if I do win a seat.

The total BI for these events comes out to $33,250. I will be selling action at 24.51% markup at these prices: (Feel free to buy whatever numbers you want at a minimum of .5%, but I included these here for the math lazy)

.5% = $212
1% = $414
5% = $2120
10% = $4140

I will accept dollars in either Stars/FTP(BensBenz) or live cash in Vegas. I'm looking to sell 70% of my action.

Stars: City: VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FTP: H, blue chick


Background:
I am mainly a live, cash LHE turned mixed game player. I have played successfully as high as 40/80 for several years. I've also started grinding a myriad of sats online(pretty much anything I play for FTOPS - LHE, O/8, Stud, Stud/8, HORSE, 8-game):


I don't have a ton of MTT results(due to obvious lack of mixed/limit events)/online grinding but you are free to comb through them: http://www.pokerpages.com/player-pro...enjamin-yu.htm. My SNs are IHASTOPTOP(ABS) BensBenz(PS/FTP).

Here are some of my previous threads:
Last years WSOP: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...or-ben-495854/
Most recent FTOPS I played: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...shares-704741/

Alot of people can vouch for my integrity and poker skill on 2p2. My MTTc references are gobbo and Scary_Tiger. I have been entrusted before with 5 figure money and not grimmed. I've always done transactions/transfers promptly. My Cornell Fiji rating is 0.

I am notorious for my preparation and seriousness. I always review structures in order to anticipate any advantage I can get(crucial in ante games where ante size changes). I never miss hands coming back late from break. I always bio hunt the next day's table draw. I never surrender when shortstacked. SRS BZ.

Caveats:
Anything I don't play will have BI+MU returned. It is likely this will happen due to somewhat overlapping events and with the Super Sats to the 50k Players Championship.

You will be doing your own taxes for the most part. I will send all winnings back at end of the series immediately unless I have >100% ROI(~$60k) in tax-reported cashes(>$5k individual cashes), in which the proper forms will have to go out to transfer liability.

I will be updating at http://twitter.com/professorben. At some point I will be locking the twitter to prevent bio hunters from getting free information so PM me if you need access after then.

Feel free to grill me further or ask more questions.
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05-20-2010 , 01:58 AM
So if you win a seat to the 50k what happens?
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05-20-2010 , 02:10 AM
The steak wins $50.5k. I figure out what to do with the T$. Sorry if that was unclear.
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05-20-2010 , 02:17 AM
5% please

edit: are you gonna play the main?
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05-20-2010 , 02:17 AM
2%
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05-20-2010 , 02:23 AM
I'd buy a pretty large % if this didn't include the 50k sats...those are usually only like 10-20 people and mostly good players, at least in prev years

let me know if you can work anything out, thanks
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05-20-2010 , 02:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Lind III
I'd buy a pretty large % if this didn't include the 50k sats...those are usually only like 10-20 people and mostly good players, at least in prev years

let me know if you can work anything out, thanks
I'm glad to hear this because I'm going to do some more research now, even though I thought I had done it. What I was told is that the years in which the large mixed game tournament has been televised(50k horse year) there's been a soft field for the super sats, but the year's it hasn't been on TV, the fields have been tougher.

Given this year falls into the softer category I figured they would be good to play. I will go ask around and try to gather for more information. At this point, I will keep it on the steak as is, but I am open to dropping it off the steak, even if it's an event format that I consider to be very +EV in. I will definitely find this out in the next day or so.

Quote:
For every $50,500 generated through Buy-Ins, one seat (paid out in Tournament Buy-in Chips) will be awarded into the WSOP Poker Player’s Championship Event held on May 27, 2010 plus $500 cash. The prize money
that does not reach $50,500 will be paid out to (1) additional place. If the net prize pool does not reach $50,500, 1st place will receive 100% of the net prize pool, paid out in Tournament Buy-In Chips and cash.
Also, the super sats also round up a seat, so with a smaller field there will be a larger portion of the random 0-50.25k overlay to divide up, so I don't know if a smaller field is even a bad thing. Again, I'll figure this out in the next day or so.
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05-20-2010 , 02:48 AM
the 2nd part of your post is wrong, there is never an overlay, they just give it all to 1st place if there's not enough for a seat, unless they changed it this year (which i give about a 1/1000 chance of being true, considering it's harrahs)
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05-20-2010 , 02:49 AM
and i played a couple of these in either 07 or 08 when it def was televised, and the fields were pretty tough in general.

i'm really not trying to hijack your thread, sorry, i truly am interesting in buying a pretty large piece, i just don't think these are a good spot at 24% markup.
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05-20-2010 , 03:42 AM
They give the extra money to the spot who bubbles the seat. I came 2nd place in one that only had 1 seat but I got 30k for getting second.
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05-20-2010 , 03:46 AM
you have any opinion on the level of play in those gobbo? I'm still willing to be convinced that I just signed up for ones that happened to have more good players than normal.
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05-20-2010 , 03:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Lind III
the 2nd part of your post is wrong, there is never an overlay, they just give it all to 1st place if there's not enough for a seat, unless they changed it this year (which i give about a 1/1000 chance of being true, considering it's harrahs)
I thought it was too good to be true, just seems really confusing given the language they used. This consideration should be thrown out of my argument.

Quote:
Originally Posted by George Lind III
and i played a couple of these in either 07 or 08 when it def was televised, and the fields were pretty tough in general.

i'm really not trying to hijack your thread, sorry, i truly am interesting in buying a pretty large piece, i just don't think these are a good spot at 24% markup.
No need to apologize. In fact, I appreciate it. It is definitely in my best interest to be revamping my schedule if new information comes out. Again, I will try to get a few more perspectives in the next day or two. If gobbo or anyone else has an opinion on the issue, feel free to share.
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05-20-2010 , 03:54 AM
The fields weren't amazingly soft but I think a lot of the players were giving up a lot in the later stages because they played too tight. I wouldn't play them in cash games but in tournaments they were giving up a lot.

Also keep in mind they're 8 game satellites this year instead of HORSE and the 8 game tournaments have always been much much softer than HORSE tournaments. You get lots more people who know how to play NL okay who just play for the hell of it.
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05-20-2010 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pocktdeuces
5% please

edit: are you gonna play the main?
reserved. I will allow reservations until 48 hours before my first event(currently 5/25 1pm). If funds are not transferred by this time, these shares go back up for grabs/whoever is on a waitlist.

I didn't want to have a single tournament make up too much of a single slate, so if I play the main it will be on a different steak/thread. It will depend partly on my financial situation at that point, as I don't feel good about selling my entire steak and freerolling the Main as some people do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by McNitterson
2%
also reserved.
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05-20-2010 , 10:27 PM
Update:
I'm getting told that I should play the super sats, but I must admit the people I'm talking to are limited in sample size and don't actually have experience with the events. Gobbo and GL3 are the only people I've actually talked to so far who've actually played the event. Still waiting back on a couple of responses. I will have some kind of proposal in the next day or so.

Also, I'm changing the tax figure to at least $100k in reported cashes before I send out forms. Likely not worth anyone's trouble.
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05-21-2010 , 09:15 PM
JT agrees that the 50k horse sats were tough but that the 8game ones this year should be soft.

(7:07:47 PM) Ben: yo
(7:08:56 PM) Ben: i was wondering if u would have any idea if the super sats to the 50k players champ 8 game would be soft - im getting conflicting opinions with a limited sample size
(8:32:15 PM) Joe Tall: I've played the 50k HORSE and it was fantastic
(8:32:24 PM) Joe Tall: I'm sure the mix will be good
(9:46:07 PM) Ben: i mean the super sats to the event
(9:46:20 PM) Ben: there are 3 of them the day before
(10:10:00 PM) Joe Tall: the sats are really tough
(10:10:02 PM) Joe Tall: the smaller field
(10:10:07 PM) Joe Tall: with allt he well known players
(10:10:12 PM) Joe Tall: is obv much softer
(10:10:16 PM) Joe Tall: the random donkeys
(10:10:24 PM) Joe Tall: who have never played mixed before
(10:10:27 PM) Joe Tall: that play the sats
(10:10:32 PM) Joe Tall: are beasts
(10:10:58 PM) Joe Tall: :P
(10:20:49 PM) Ben: do u thin kitll stil lbe a tough field now that its 8 game instead of horse?
(10:21:01 PM) Joe Tall: hell no
(10:21:03 PM) Joe Tall: omg no
(10:21:04 PM) Joe Tall: easier
(10:21:26 PM) Joe Tall: PLO/NL brings in the donks who think they'll just pwn in the big bet
(10:21:32 PM) Ben: so i should play it or not play it?
(10:21:36 PM) Joe Tall: little do the know about limit variance
(10:22:00 PM) Joe Tall: when is it?
(10:22:06 PM) Joe Tall: I should get out there and play it
(10:22:47 PM) Joe Tall: I would recommend any decent HORSE player to play it
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05-21-2010 , 09:16 PM
Here is my proposal:

I will continue to plan on playing the supersats and sell action for them. I feel confident that the events will be soft enough, and in my own abilities given that 8-game is one of my strongest formats. However, if I drive down to the Rio on 5/27, I have no qualms walking away if I see a tough a field, or not playing the 2nd/3rd sats if the first field is tough. Again, I am a game selection nit and never feel comfortable selling action in an event I don't think is +EV for both sides, so I would be willing to walk away from a marginal spot and returning BI + MU.

If I have problems selling out, I will come back (and beg for your forgiveness!), and sell action without the supersats on the remaining events. Everyone else will have their portion of shares returned.

Let me know if you have any other ideas. I am hoping you will buy a piece as is, but I would like to work something out.
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05-22-2010 , 05:24 AM
reserve 1.5% please
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05-22-2010 , 05:45 AM
sent $414 for 1% from heyimdro on ftp
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05-22-2010 , 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moneyinbag
reserve 1.5% please
Quote:
Originally Posted by drodro
sent $414 for 1% from heyimdro on ftp
reserved and received.

5% pocktdeuces (reserved)
2% McNitterson (reserved)
1.5% moneyinbag (reserved)
1% drodro
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05-22-2010 , 09:16 AM
.5% reserve please
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05-22-2010 , 09:19 AM
1%
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05-22-2010 , 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bandonlooper1
.5% reserve please
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwesty
1%
reserved and received.

5% pocktdeuces (reserved)
2% McNitterson (reserved)
1.5% moneyinbag (reserved)
1% rwesty
1% drodro
.5% bandonlooper1(reserved)
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05-23-2010 , 01:00 AM
Update: I am dropping the 8-game super sats from my steak in order to get a large piece sold. Those of you who have reserved action will have the same percentage reserved, though you are free to increase this value. The two of you who have already paid me for your 1% will have your difference sent back. Please feel free to contact me if any of these changes causes you problems.

Here are some new numbers:
Total BIs: $26,500
MU: 24.53% (This is up from 24.51% because it rounds nicely. Hopefully, you guys don't mind being grimmed for .02%)

.5% = $165
1% = $330
5% = $1650
10% = $3300

For anyone who buys action from this point on, I will double check to make sure you are sending me amounts for for the amended steak. If you send me the original amounts I will send you the difference back by default.
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05-23-2010 , 01:04 AM
10% from planetearf on tilt
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