5 left. 700k of the 1.26 million in play....go go go

not really sure why my action was cancelled, i told you I was away from computer for a few days and would have the money to you when I returned.

gl anyways

3 left...~900k of 1.26 million...almost home!!!

Ya if u didn't post anything before hand don't see how he isnt booked, it's not like notontilt is some rando on here...especially considering u didn't clarify anything til after u were at the ft...(I think?) if u posted before the Turny, obviously it'd be a different story

Heads up with a 3-1 chip lead

You should of mentioned it prior to Final tabling this event. Not fair IMO. notontilt should still be booked.

I'm a fair guy, always been, and this is not for debate. He had multiple chances to send me money, I contacted him via PM, skype.

He comes in 5 minutes after Stuart posts in this topic that I'm chipleader and sends in the money right? I'm not freerolling people, sorry.

Always sold action and had transactions and I've never tried to be unfair to anyone. I already talked to people that buy action and they agree with me.

Why didn't u just post in the thread saying u gave him a chance to ship and now u r canceling his shares? Since u didn't post anything then if u had busted 1st few tourneys u could still accept notontilts shares saying u would've paid him his % had u cashed prior to him sending late.

I wasn't accepting any money anymore from him after my last attempt which was right after the first tournament (out of 10 in the package.) He was never on the reserved list. Never have I listed him as (reserved) or have I said that he is reserved.

My decision is final.

Both Busto and notontilt are good people and have great reps. Both of them were wrong in a way. My method has always been no money no action. Either way this sucks, but no money no action is my thought.

Just to be clear I meant hypothetically speaking. Not saying u would freeroll anyone but it does leave the door open. Anyways gl rest of the series.

I have a PM from you on 12-07 (after the series has begun and I assume after you have busted event 1). This PM states:

Hey man,

I didn't get the transfer yet. What's going on?

Val

It appears to me after the 1st event which you did not cash that you are still expecting the transfer. This is the only correspondence we've had since you sent me a PM with your lock info for the transfer. Why did you ask for the $ after busting event 1, but then cancel my action after FT'ing this event?

It seems a bit fishy to me that you would only have cancelled this action after going deep in an event, rather then before the series started when I had failed to send the $.

I agree it was a mistake on my part to wait a few days to send and I will admit it slipped my mind, but it was my understanding that acknowledged action was booked and you clearly acknowledged my action by confirming the amount to send on lock as well as your email for transfer.

I don't want either of our names to get dragged through the mud over a pretty inconsequential amount of money, i'm just arguing my case for why I believe my action was still good.

If I had flown out simply for the main event, and paid you then, I assume my action would have been good. This situation seems to be equivalent, but maybe I am mistaken.

Wait, so you PM'd the guy who you never considered booked or reserved to ask what's going on with his share, after already busting an event in the package? Then FT an event and post ITT that his shares were never reserved?

Ya I asked him what's going on. Is he still interested or not. That's all.

I NEVER RESERVED him. Just because you post "I want 4%" here doesn't mean you automatically get it. Unless I put you in the list of reserved you're not. notontilt09 look in the mirror dude. You're trying to angle yourself into some free money. I don't know what your reputation is but I know mine. It's not about the $200 or whatever the 4% is. You didn't send money. You were never planning to. And that's fine, I didn't include you in the list of reserved people. Once you saw I made a FT, you decided to squeeze in a freeroll. That's not how this works.

People that have dealt with me and I can list them in my refs, circuit regs, 2p2 regs, and other people know me. I would never try to scam anyone out of a couple hundred. That's stupid. This is the last I'm going to post about this. I've worked hard for my win and this topic is not really what I wanted to do tonight. So I'll be out drinking!

PS Turb0Licious congrats bro. I heard you pulled a sicko too! Hope you're enjoying the jewelry

This post is pretty ridiculous considering no clarification in the thread before the package started, the pm u sent him after u busted an event in this package And then finally coming in to 'clarify' he was not booked right after u make the ft.

I mean u both should've communicated better obviously. Don't know why u wouldn't post before the package started saying he was not booked.

Val - congrats on the ship/ring.

As for the issue at hand - if it were a day or two I could understand, but we're talking 6 days after the package has started. If I don't know that person personally (which I think is the case here), no way is their action going to be booked beyond that 1 day grace period without me explicitly stating so. But agreed, it would have been better to post a final list of investors or a quick message stating his action was cancelled/never booked.

I wasn't right after I made FT; the only reason I posted anything to 'clarify' is because he sent me a PM with "I sent you money" 5 minutes after Stuart posted that I made FT in this thread (obviously he read it and took the shot at a freeroll.)

I never considered his 4% reserved and there is no where that I state otherwise.

If I don't state that you're reserved you're not. I don't need to clarify that. I posted a clear list of people that are reserved and/or paid. It's not my first package on the market place and I do that all the time. You're not on the list and I didn't mention anything about you being reserved, you're not reserved. Not sure what I need to clarify. It's funny how a couple of 2p2 users are actually posting in this thread "defending" (not sure if its the right word) this guy who saw an opportunity to make a quick buck by freerolling this 6 days into the package.

I had 0 clue you were deep in a tournament when I realized that I hadn't sent the money. I can provide internet search history from yesterday to prove that I did not see this thread or anything that could have let me know your current situation in the tournament before I sent you a PM stating I had sent the money.

So your accusation of me trying to freeroll you in 100% invalid. I know it likely appears that way, but I'll gladly provide the evidence to a 3rd party.


You also never state that my action was cancelled, or was no longer reserved. And the fact that you ask for the money AFTER busting an event in the series proves, to me at least, that you have reserved my action. If you hadn't asked for the money on the 7th, this would be a non-issue, but you dug yourself a hole here.


I've sold, bought, paid out, and received hundreds of thousands of $$$ in this marketplace. I understand that you do not know me before as we've never done business, but accusing me of trying to freeroll you is laughable when clearly you have just freerolled me.

I know exactly one of the posters defending me, and I did not ask him to post on my behalf. The others are looking at a situation not knowing either party and making an informed decision.

Nice win! That is your second ring I read on twitter? Awesome man, well done.

Notontilt, when did you finally send the money?

Busto, I think your point about labeling an investor reserved or not is moot. I label investors action as reserved all the time, this doesn't mean they are booked. It's just stating that the action they reserved is being held for them so that other buyers can't reserve or buy that action until stated otherwise.

I can't say if the action should be booked or not. This thread is an example why sellers should update the list of investors before the events start. Otherwise there is the potential for ether person to attempt a freeroll.

I sent the money yestersday during the day before having any idea Val was alive in this tournament. I received a PM back saying he was "not going to freeroll me" which led me to check this thread and find out he was CL at the FT.

After getting a PM from Val on the 6th with his lock info, I responded on the 9th apologizing for not sending and notifying him that I hadn't been home for a few days. I asked him to send me a message on skype to remind me to send and he added me there. Between then and yesterday I had no interaction with Val or this thread (I have family in town and didn't check this forum or my PM's between the 9th and yesterday).

I understand Val's point that since I didn't send the money before the series that nothing was ever booked. However, since he clearly asks me to send the money AFTER busting an event, he's booking the action.

busto,

Once you post this and have the transpiring PM conversation where you send him your information, this is booked. You yourself thought it was booked when you sent him a PM after busting your first event asking him "what was going on". If you truly thought the action was not on you would have called the action off then at that point, however 1 event in with no cashes you did not call the action off. Only after you had a big score did you consider the action off, which is awfully convenient.

This is silly. I never considered his action at any point. Let alone 6 days after the series started. It's nothing about convenient.

I did post the list lol! I also never posted anything about him being reserved at any point.

I haven't asked you to send anything, let alone "clearly asked you". I literally said, "what is going on?". I wanted to know if you were just simply late one day package was 10 tourneys one was done so I was trying to give you a chance which I shouldn't have, to actually reserve the package. .