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09-25-2017 , 08:17 AM

nomalice

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Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,651

so Im abi 17$ reg that sattelited event. villain is some random 300$ abi guy. they were trying to press me whenever they could, overbluffed vs my capped range, ( altough im not sure this guy overreached ) , putting pressure on me all the time as i expected. anyway, thoughts about the hand ?

Pacific, $1,000 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37835912

UTG+1: 27,030 (54.1 bb)
UTG+2: 46,827 (93.7 bb)
MP1: 14,918 (29.8 bb)
MP2: 41,126 (82.3 bb)
MP3: 14,539 (29.1 bb)
CO: 11,866 (23.7 bb)
BTN: 13,469 (26.9 bb)
SB: 12,480 (25 bb)
Hero (BB): 17,745 (35.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

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3 folds, MP2 raises to 1,165, 4 folds, Hero calls 665

Flop: (3,120) 8

(2 players)
MP2 bets 1,054, Hero calls 1,054

Turn: (5,228) J

(2 players)
MP2 bets 3,185, Hero calls 3,185

River: (11,598) 8

(2 players)
MP2 bets 35,662 and is all-in, Hero ???????

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Last edited by nomalice; 09-25-2017 at 08:29 AM.

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09-25-2017 , 08:29 AM

Azoxy

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 97

How about leading the turn? since the villain most likely thinks you are player scared money leading the turn here would look extremly strong no? and it will make it alot easier to know where you are at. if he raises we can just fold and if he calls we can decide to either shove the river and yolo it or make a very small bet to block him from shoving on us?

(i'm just a micro player, so don't go too hard on me if you don't agree <3)

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09-25-2017 , 08:46 AM

jonrubs

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Sucks you have the Ah as you block missed Axhh.

I think I badly want to click call looking at the hand as his value range is extremely narrow, id say AK+ and everything misses.

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09-25-2017 , 09:36 AM

OutPlayU27

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Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,688

Pretty bad card otr to bluff.
Can we do something different otf since we hold the Ah? (maybe we are not deep enough tho, but exploitative i would like to see a ´´**** you x/r´´), since people are overcbetting K high flops and hands with backdoor equity, and obv we can bluff some turns and rivers.

Last edited by OutPlayU27; 09-25-2017 at 09:38 AM. Reason: i think i fold....

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09-25-2017 , 10:47 AM

nomalice

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Originally Posted by OutPlayU27

not with our specific hand. first it's pretty easy +EV call otf 2nd it's not so great to be using it as a x raise considering that we block a ton of his potential bluffs.

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09-25-2017 , 11:31 AM

jonrubs

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The more I like at it, the more I think he would probably be overbluffing this runout. Villain probably thinks you are folding 8x on the turn, both FDs missed on the river that he could potentially barrelling and it would make no sense for him to barrel any 8x on the river. His value range is like {KJ,AK, 66, JJ, AA, K8ss}(dont think I should include this but you never know)

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09-25-2017 , 12:46 PM

gregz41

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You can fold here. You're going to have some 8x here in addition to the majority of Kx you have which also reaches river.

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09-25-2017 , 05:07 PM

OutPlayU27

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Originally Posted by nomalice

not with our specific hand. first it's pretty easy +EV call otf 2nd it's not so great to be using it as a x raise considering that we block a ton of his potential bluffs.

Vs good aggro reg, don´t think it´s +EV (not saying we should fold, def standard call)
And the play is more exploitative, not saying we should do it as a default, cus than we are overbluffing, and your missing the big picture here : make him fold some hands that have equity vs our hand like T9s, or even AK,KJ,KQ has a hard time calling a flop x/r and tbh we are not gonna win at showdown enough to make our call profitable, since we are gonna be put in a lot of tough spots on later streets.
What was your plan if a

comes ott or river?

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09-26-2017 , 12:16 PM

gforcall

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I think it's a clear fold on the river unless the villian is overblufing a lot this spot. We have better bluffcatchers on that board and having the ace of hearts reduces his missed flush draws combos. Calling with most of Kx and stronger hands.

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09-29-2017 , 03:03 PM

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OutPlayU27

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What did you did OP?

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09-29-2017 , 03:26 PM

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nomalice

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i did what i always do when im playing tournies above my pay grade - I called to see what he has. i believe it was classic ego call ingame, like ' i wont get kicked in the head on the table and constatly fold ' ... had like 5 spots where i was at middle/bottom of my range and they pressured me and i folded every time.

run into poker obv

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09-30-2017 , 02:43 PM

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OutPlayU27

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Originally Posted by nomalice

Makes sense

I wonder if we should call all our Kx otr?

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