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Old 08-13-2020, 07:38 PM   #1
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WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

Level 15
blinds are 2,250/4,500 w ante

Villain 1 is playing 20% VPIP preflop nothing noteable on them. (from China)
Villain 2 is playing pretty loose preflop. They are from the Bahamas

Hero has 350K
Villain 1 has 175K
Villain 2 has 140K


Preflop: Hero has AQ in the BB
Folds to villain one in the HJ who raises to 9K, Villain 2 calls OTB, SB folds, Hero 3 bets to 40K, Villain 1 folds, Villain 2 calls

Flop: KQ7
Hero checks, Villain checks

Turn: 6
Hero bets 27K, villain calls

River: 6
Hero checks, Villain bets 22.5K, hero calls

Do you do anything different here?
I think I have to bet something on the turn because I am giving straight draws and 1 pair hands and PPs a free chance to hit something
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:26 AM   #2
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

Villain 2 has about a psb left otf. I don't know if this is a crude approach, but I would just shove the wet flop. Or you can bet/gii otf and shove the turn if called. If he has a K so be it.
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:32 AM   #3
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

Pot sizes would be appreciated in your HH's. Why no cbet? Apart from that - happy to check/call down, especially given the price
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:54 AM   #4
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

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Pot sizes would be appreciated in your HH's. Why no cbet? Apart from that - happy to check/call down, especially given the price
No cbet because this player is going to fold his air or A high hands. It's a way ahead or way behind situation. I decided to bet something small on the turn because I thought I might get value from whatever hand he had and checking twice might induce the villain to shove (might have been better to check it down and let him bet).
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Old 08-15-2020, 09:02 PM   #5
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

I would call the river, villain has had two chances to bet with his King, the flop and possibly over the top on the turn and did neither. Given the price, river is a call.
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Old 08-30-2020, 02:28 AM   #6
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

Your hh are a mess to read and also u shudnt be playing a $500 main event smh just stick to the $10 BIs
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Old 08-30-2020, 06:40 AM   #7
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

on the flop 100k on the bank, 100k villain has left?
I like jam, lots of TJ, mayby some flush draws,PP
I dont like to check/call later streets...We dont expect to see turn and river 2,2...
Lots of bad cards could come out A,T,any diamond,sets...

And there are not much K in his ranges,no ak-s,Mayby JTs,AJ,Ajs,55-tt,
KQs,kq people tend to fold,as well KJs
Would like to know some expert views as well.

If he really had K,then your plan was really good,beause you only lost 50k instead of my 100k
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Old 08-30-2020, 04:35 PM   #8
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

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Your hh are a mess to read and also u shudnt be playing a $500 main event smh just stick to the $10 BIs
Lol wat? I don't think anyone else has a hand history except you. It's super easy to read. GG poker doesn't give you the hand histories, it's a graphic.

Also, maybe stick to the low stakes forum if you have nothing to contribute.
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Old 08-30-2020, 06:02 PM   #9
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

Just bet/call small on the flop - he has what a PSB left? Might as well induce him to make a mistake - I think you get more betting then checking
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Old 08-30-2020, 06:56 PM   #10
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

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No cbet because this player is going to fold his air or A high hands. It's a way ahead or way behind situation. I decided to bet something small on the turn because I thought I might get value from whatever hand he had and checking twice might induce the villain to shove (might have been better to check it down and let him bet).
( ) way ahead or way behind situation.
( ) player has a lot of a high hands
( ) player has a lot of kx
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:17 AM   #11
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

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Lol wat? I don't think anyone else has a hand history except you. It's super easy to read. GG poker doesn't give you the hand histories, it's a graphic.

Also, maybe stick to the low stakes forum if you have nothing to contribute.
You can download hand histories from the stat area - can't remember what it's called right now but it's on the client. My only problem with your hand histories is the lack of pot sizings on each street
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Old 09-01-2020, 01:43 AM   #12
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

I'm assuming plan (pre) was to fold to 4bet from HJ and call-off vs BTN...

With an SPR of 1 post, plan should be to open shove (almost) any flop. I guess (some) A-high and K-high flops could be played differently but probably not textures with SDs and FDs.

Villain has already called-off 1/3 of his stack in a spot where he's very likely to be too wide and he shouldn't have any tarps, so I'd just let him call-off the rest. WAWB (not sure what the threshold is...we have ~65-70% equity vs JJ-88,AdAc,AQs-ATs,KJs+,QJs,JTs,AQo-AJo,KQo) becomes a far less relevant variable as the SPR decreases.

You are gonna be beat sometimes but you're not folding, you're not inducing a ton of bruffs by checking and you can def get called by worse when you open-shove.
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:56 AM   #13
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

So pot is rougly 82k and villain has something like 107k.

I don't like to push the flop, what is his range to call down a shove?
Kx / 77 / some diamonds draw with a straight draw ? so few hands ..
I think he will fold JJ/TT...

So I prefer to bet the flop and as it has been said reevaluate OTT.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:47 PM   #14
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

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So pot is rougly 82k and villain has something like 107k.
(Not that it makes much difference)...but:

Villain has 100k (140 starting less 40 to call the 3bet.)

Total pot should be 96k since it also includes the Original Raise from Villain 1 in HJ (9k) plus the antes (~4.8k) assuming 9-handed play and a 12%*BB calculation.
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:37 AM   #15
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

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(Not that it makes much difference)...but:

Villain has 100k (140 starting less 40 to call the 3bet.)

Total pot should be 96k since it also includes the Original Raise from Villain 1 in HJ (9k) plus the antes (~4.8k) assuming 9-handed play and a 12%*BB calculation.
Right! I said roughly but you're right.
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Old 09-04-2020, 02:53 PM   #16
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

What are your thoughts on jamming pre here rather than squeezing the 40k? I mean, we're around 30bb effective and it's really going to suck if one of them decides to rejam TT/AJs/KQs et al and we have to find a fold. I personally am not averse to ripping it here pre.
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Old 09-04-2020, 09:40 PM   #17
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Re: WSOP Mini main Event on GG Poker($500) - AQo OOP in 3 bet pot

It's 39bbs effective with HJ/OR...he'd prob have to call with worse at some non-zero freq for reshove to be > than 40-45k. I'd personally go to 25% of HJ's stack (44k) but doesn't matter that much.

In many ways 40k looks much stronger > shove, mostly bc we are committing 40% of our stack vs BTN and this would be our preferred sizing with AA/KK. While there are combos that would benefit from the protection of a shove (TT-QQ) and we can add more bruffs, I'd still only shove at a decent freq vs a LAG opener.
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