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06-16-2019 , 11:59 PM
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Just checking on general responses. 4 bettor in mid position.
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06-17-2019 , 12:22 AM
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how deep, what is payout structure, how many at the table, what is your image, what is villains image, what is blinds/antes structure

there are many situations where QQ is a snap fold and many others where it's a fist pump jam
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06-17-2019 , 03:00 AM
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Yes
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06-17-2019 , 01:26 PM
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100% yes. Even KK against the right opponent I would. Ask yourself this. Certain nitty older players tend to have a super super tight 3bet or 4bet hand selection. If someone is only going to 3bet or even ironically 4bet.... sometimes it’s going to only be 1 or 2 hands.

From most of my experience in live mtts at $200-500 bi range, people 3bet and 4bet insanely tight in early stages especially if middle aged or older. In a turbo or event with poor structure, I’m fine with stacking off QQ early. If structure is good, I see nothing wrong with folding against the correct player type.
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06-17-2019 , 03:02 PM
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Been there, done that. Didn't get the tee shirt - too expensive.
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06-17-2019 , 06:02 PM
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too much info in the op, need a sec
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06-17-2019 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
100% yes. Even KK against the right opponent I would. Ask yourself this. Certain nitty older players tend to have a super super tight 3bet or 4bet hand selection. If someone is only going to 3bet or even ironically 4bet.... sometimes it’s going to only be 1 or 2 hands.

From most of my experience in live mtts at $200-500 bi range, people 3bet and 4bet insanely tight in early stages especially if middle aged or older. In a turbo or event with poor structure, I’m fine with stacking off QQ early. If structure is good, I see nothing wrong with folding against the correct player type.
I agree. Will your response change if the 4 bettor is your typical 20-30 male and you have no information on the person given its early stages in the event? I am leaning towards folding given its early and all is deep. Essentially calling or 5 betting is akin to calling a bluff.
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06-18-2019 , 12:08 AM
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too much info in the op, need a sec
Oh man...you totally whiffed on the opportunity for "TLDR"...but I laughed nonetheless
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06-18-2019 , 06:53 PM
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nah im never folding QQ to a 4 bet early.
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