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why A5s why A5s

01-23-2018 , 12:11 AM
Anyways, I've noticed on some shove ranges A5s will slip into some shove
ranges like A9s+ but also A5s.

Also some preflop strategies, have opening raises AKs-ATs, but then also
have A5s ??

I understand it adds a bike element to the equation.
I guess for a shove it is slightly stronger than A4s-A2s.

But if I keep seeing A5s, why not A2s-A4s. The chances of making the
straight are the same with A5 as they are with A2, A3, A4.

As a shove in many spots is irrelevant also no? You shove 10BB utg with A5s
your not getting called by AT or less anyways, 66 or less?
As a deep postflop hand also, as I said it must have microscopic value over A4-A2. So why raise A5s & not A4-A2s utg. The kicker is irrelevant, the wheel chances are the same. I suppose once in a blue moon you make a pair 5 and beat 44????

Anyways, any thoughts
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01-23-2018 , 08:11 AM
A5 is not the same chance of making a straight as A2-A4.

A5 has 6789, 4678, 3467 and 2346 and its wheel combos.
A4 has 5678, 3567, 2356 and its wheel combos.
A3 has 4567, 2456 and its wheel combos.
A2 has 3456 and its wheel combos.

And yes, you also flip 22/33/44 with A5. So there's more math to protect it.
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01-23-2018 , 10:22 AM
okay, my bad your right.

Still somewhat surprising. The chances the extra straights are made
must be pretty microscopic. But then again, a lot of edges are really small
so I suppose the extra straights and the odd beating of 22-44 make it
enough
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01-26-2018 , 05:35 AM
Yup, gotta go for every little edge you can get and A5s happens to have a slightly bigger edge compared to hands like A2-A4s (although those hands still have value, just less than the A5.)

Like you said, sometimes you make a pair of 5s against a hand like 44s.
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