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12-13-2017 , 10:37 PM
Hi,

Villain 21/16 300hands
MP RFI 30

Which hands are in the bottom of your reshove range vs villain?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (4,000/8,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37893072

Hero (CO): 113,655 (14.2 bb)
BTN: 427,626 (53.5 bb)
SB: 526,540 (65.8 bb)
BB: 296,555 (37.1 bb)
UTG+1: 197,018 (24.6 bb)
UTG+2: 479,825 (60 bb)
MP1: 224,448 (28.1 bb)
MP2: 509,836 (63.7 bb)
MP3: 864,994 (108.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 A
2 folds, MP1 raises to 16,720,
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12-13-2017 , 11:05 PM
This hand would not be in my value range, but would make it into my bluff range. So depending on villains calling tendencies (if they are known) your image and recent game flow, and etc.
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12-14-2017 , 02:48 AM
I would mostly reshove for value in this spot, this hand would not be a good candidate.
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12-14-2017 , 03:36 AM
I don't really get the idea of value and bluff ranges here - fold w/o a read
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12-14-2017 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
I don't really get the idea of value and bluff ranges here - fold w/o a read
If I shove 9Ts its my bluffing range, if I shove AA its my value range. I am usually only 3b jamming my bluffing range in a resteal situation like vs a CO or BTN open, usually I would need a read too.
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12-14-2017 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
I don't really get the idea of value and bluff ranges here - fold w/o a read
A shove for value = The hands you can shove for value based on the size of the bet so that the bottom hand of the range is the best hand in the proportion of times equal to the odds you lay yourself with the bet . This range you always shove. This can be figured mathematically if you know that ranges of the players at the table. Here you are betting 14BBs to win 4.5 BBs. You are laying yourself about 3:1 odds on your money. So your value point starts at the range of hands that your opponent cannot hold 75% of the time.

So if we start MP1 with the 30% range and the 3 remaining players with a 100% range any hand in the top 4% has a 75% chance of being the best hand. (.96 * .96 * .96 * .866 = 0.76) (MP1 has an 86.6 chance of not holding a top 4% hand. 4/30 = 13.333). 4% range is something like TT+, AQ+.

A bluff shove = hands that will be mostly behind when you get called and depend on fold equity to make it a profitable shove.

Now you set the balance. The formula for GTO balance is f=b/(b+p) or here it is f = 14/18.5 or f = 76% frequency of bluffs for balance. Simplified here just add 12% of bluff hands for balanced range. Since I am assuming that we are not having a call range here, it is the next 12% of hands for a 16% balanced shove range. 66+, A7s+, A5s, K9s+, Q9s+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, and QJo is the range Equilabs throws out as the top 16%. You can feel free to adjust this to your liking.

Bluff ranges are not static they are always changing based on game flow. If you think you get more folds then you increase your bluff range. If you think your opponents will call off light, then you decrease this part of the range.

So the next question you ask is how much of a bluff range do you want here? An unexploitable balanced range or an exploitative unbalanced range. And if you are going to unbalance your ranges, which direction are you going.

Last edited by jjpregler; 12-14-2017 at 08:56 AM.
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12-15-2017 , 06:53 AM
I'd be mostly rejamming here only with value hands?
66+,A9s+ seem totally reasonable.
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12-15-2017 , 06:28 PM
No reads, I fold this since most people aren't opening enough here. If he's opening 30%, I jam. 22/44+,A4s+,A9o+,KTs+,KJo/KQo+,QJs could be reasonable depending on how wide you think he calls.

Positional RFI and F3b are important here.
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