It's a daily DeepStack at the WSOP.

140 players remain, 104 get paid.

BB is 3K. Average stack is 80k. Hero is short with only 25k and new to the table.

UTG +1 (woman ~ 60) opens for 7k. Stack is 120k.
UTG +2 (~ 70) 3 bets to 20k
2 folds
MP (~75) goes all in with stack of 90k
Folds to hero in BB holding AKs.

We've got a premium hand a chance to triple up if we win. But we've got 3 older players in front of us and what is the 4 bet shipping range of an unknown senior in the face of a an open and a strong 3 bet from a fellow senior?

Our time is running out with our little stack.

Wow not going to lie, this spot is gross. If 70 and 75 year old played super tight so far, I hate to say this but I think I would maybe fold here. I feel best case scenario here is QQ or JJ vs your AK and another AK or AQ.

I think this really depends on how aggro these 2 said players were. If they were both standard old nits, I don’t think you are doing too well against a 3b and 4b. Most live players play so tight.... 3 betting and 4 betting is so super rare that I think range has to be like jj+ ak+ at the very worst. It might be tighter than this honestly.

I’ll be honest though on 8bbs and a structure that is probably quick (based on what the chip avg is).... I can’t see much wrong with going with AKs here. I guess you have blockers to kk and aa and we wouldn’t mind a flop against qq here/ other strong hands.

I lean fold but calling can’t be too bad I guess but might be hard to win against 2 other opponents with insanely strong ranges.

Easy all in gl I’d fold with a bigger stack tho

Easy shove with a very small stack with nothing in OP about player profile other than judging them on their age. You’ll never win anything being this much of a paranoid nit, have to gamble sometimes

Unsuited AK is a lot more interesting

We have 43% vs JJ+,AK with AKs and like 40% with AKo so id proly just take this spot with both

Wait for a better spot to be the agresor … In the good scenarios, it's very likely you are going against a pair and there are not 3 aces left in the deck… You have still 8 blinds, so you had some fold equity when you shove...

how are we waiting for a better spot with 9bb? We have like 30 hands until we completely blind out and with 8bb how do we have FE?

The only consideration I'd have for folding is if this table has nothing but OM/WC and I could steal my way up. In game, I seriously doubt I could talk myself into folding. We are too far from the bubble to pass up this high variance spot.

I think shoving any two( if hand is folded to us) from BTN, CO and even HJ is a better spot... because of fold equity... yes, I think we have FE with 8 BB.

An old man is 4betting all in to another old man… Very likely we are against T aces or kings … Shoving Kx suited from MP is better spot...

Call me crazy but Idk how much stealing you can do on 8bbs? What maybe jam and get all folds a few times by pure luck but other than that, you can do nothing on an 8bb stack. You really can’t open and then fold so I feel on 15bbs or less, you really don’t have much option to steal. All we can do on this stackis take our Nash shoves and hope they work out I feel u til we get a double or bust.

I think this is kind of interesting, but I still ship it in. I don't think we know enough to label these players nits. If we have played with them for +5 hours, maybe we can say that. We do assume most older players have tighter ranges, but they do sometimes show up with something that makes you scratch your head.

You'd be surprised at how much fold equity you have with 8BB. Especially in these fields, with 70+ year olds they just don't adjust there calling ranges enough.

I stopped reading at 25k your stack. With 8 BBs and AKs I never fold to action from other short stacks, unless huge ICM considerations come into play.

Wow this is a gross but we have to fold. We are better calling off here with 109s since will have more equity against V's ranges.

4-bet shove is AA, KK, QQ & AK (maybe)

I think if you believe MP's jam range has some TT or AQ in it then it's a call. If MP's jam range is JJ+,AK then it's close but probably still a call. If you believe MP's range is tighter than that then I can argue folding.

Although to be honest, we do have to be cognizant in this spot that there was a UTG+1 open and a UTG+2 3-bet, which should on their own imply some tight ranges that are going to have premiums of their own a decent amount even if we think MP might have a decently wide range.

I'm not in a position where I can run numbers but I'd guess this is a spot that is +cEV, but probably not dramatically so.

Hero is in BB and has 6k in the pot already it seems like. You're almost getting the right price to call if he shows you KK.

Never folding.

I've been in this situation a few times in local satellites and the mspt and AK was almost always good.

Yup