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Venetian deepstack hands from Vegas trip (plan to post over next couple of days many hands) Venetian deepstack hands from Vegas trip (plan to post over next couple of days many hands)

05-25-2021 , 05:29 PM
I probably play it the same -- I think KQ is definitely also in range for live player overcalling an ep raise and a call early in the tournament. The only real value you missed on the turn is QJ/KT/KJ/Q8s/QT (some live players will also flat AQ there) and possibly some type of club/combo draw (but not sure you want to get too frisky against that). You can't worry too much about under pairs that spike sets on the river -- yeah you fold them out by betting the turn, but in truth he should never have peeled with most under pairs including 88 after your flop x/r.
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05-26-2021 , 02:20 AM
Hey all more hands from another heater day,

1) Jam 25 bb vs cutoff open from bc with jqss is super standard correct? Villian was younger asian dude that should be opening wide. This was after reg was closed?

2) I have heaps at 3k bb due to run good. Ok utg 7 handed opens to 8k, I 3bet to 22k. She rips 30bbs sigh. I have AKcc? Is this just easy call off? I would assume her range is jj+ here sigh? She was an older woman that was Russian or Ukrainian it seemed and was snug. I called and she had kk. We luck bink an ace on flop and then flush on river. I feel it’s a call but it might be kinda meh. Is it ever qq+ range there? I think it’s a sigh call and we gotta wear some variance but who knows? I feel she can rip 10-10 as I have active image but maybe I’m wrong.

3) last hand of day prior to day 2. Cutoff opens to 11k at 4K bb, I have 10-9dd from bb and just moved to table so they don’t know how I play. I have 280k. Villian has maybe 100k. I 3bet to 31k and he folds. He told me he had a4o. I feel this is a great spot to put on pressure prior to day 2 and the real bubble.
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05-26-2021 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubblebust
I probably play it the same -- I think KQ is definitely also in range for live player overcalling an ep raise and a call early in the tournament. The only real value you missed on the turn is QJ/KT/KJ/Q8s/QT (some live players will also flat AQ there) and possibly some type of club/combo draw (but not sure you want to get too frisky against that). You can't worry too much about under pairs that spike sets on the river -- yeah you fold them out by betting the turn, but in truth he should never have peeled with most under pairs including 88 after your flop x/r.
Yea I was like wtf he’s calling 88 in a x raise pot where I 5x his flop bet especially when we are 4 ways to flop. I feel I barrel most turns but just feel the turn was terrible for my hand and his call range. Obv if I bet 1/2 pot + on turn I win but just feel it’s kinda unnecessary and turn my hand into a bluff catcher on the river which I think is fine.

On to AK hand- I do math and need 36.2%. Is it crazy to think this can be 10-10+ or JJ+. I felt lady was super nitty but she’s gotta be ripping 30bb with potentially 10-10 right or nah? I couldn’t see it jus being qq plus but hard to say?

I ended up 3 betting another woman that was super tight with KJss. She flats KK after opening to 13k at 3k bb and I called her flop bet on K58. She bet 20k on flop and then 25k on A turn which i sigh folded. I’m happy I didn’t call as I considered calling turn to re eval river but this other woman was super nitty. I thought the 4x+ open could be something like scared medium pair such as 88/99/1010 etc so we couldn’t just fold to her flop bet but felt her turn bet was insanely strong and better than my hand. I 3 bet her 13k open to 32k which may be stupid but I’m a fan of aggro lines with hands such as kjsuited vs just flatting? Maybe I need to just flat that live but yea idk.

I also found her donk bet into my 3bet on flop kinda weird. If she checks, I’m probably betting more than 20k into a huge pot which is kinda funny.

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05-26-2021 , 11:18 AM
That AKs suited hand is super close, and as you observe going to depend on how you range V. I have seen the type of live player you describe V as in these situations having zero bluff range and always being KK+, but there's no way you can know this ... so I guess I sigh call too, unless I knew this player through many tournaments with her.

I don't think I 3-bet with the KJs versus the described V live. Against these type Vs, I like playing Negreanu style and flatting in position, because she's liable to give up when she misses, and will almost always let you know when she has it. I know it goes against theory, and is purely exploitive, but the super-nit is the easiest player to exploit in position. Once she calls your 3! and donks the flop, I would seriously consider folding then if you trust your read on her as a super-nit. BTW, V's flop donk on that board goes a long way to confirming the type of player she is.
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05-26-2021 , 05:14 PM
Thoughts on what to do here?

I open AJdd to 10k at 5k bb with 240k stack on day 2 of tourny. 56 paid and 75-80’left. Mp calls and bb. Flop 952 with 2 diamonds. Bb leads 40k, I rip. And he calls. Ugh do we just call here? Some reg said just call but idk. I have 100bbs if I win hand even though villian is older guy that is a blaster. He called with 10-10 and we didn’t improve? Idk the min cash isn’t valuable to me of $800 in a 400 mtt. I feel we can abuse bubble if we build a huge stack and just think we can wear variance here but wanna here what others think?

Btw villian started hand with probably 300k

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05-26-2021 , 05:29 PM
If you think you have a big advantage against the remaining field, take the low variance play and call. Sounds like you have a very healthy stack already so the extra chips gained aren't worth nearly as much as those you lose. BTW, V's stack is probably relevant too, although sounds like he has you covered, or it's close.
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05-26-2021 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubblebust
If you think you have a big advantage against the remaining field, take the low variance play and call. Sounds like you have a very healthy stack already so the extra chips gained aren't worth nearly as much as those you lose. BTW, V's stack is probably relevant too, although sounds like he has you covered, or it's close.
I think I have an advantage however I might be dumb but I don’t think much edge is gained at 40bb stack depths. I think there is more value in getting to half a mill vs grinding a 40bb stack. Attacking the bubble and acquiring heaps when play starts to matter feels like a better move but I could be very wrong.

I think this could be a call btw and re eval turn. I feel
Villian no question has the goods always here and rarily folds to my jam. He’s going to have all of the sets, 2 pairs, maybe a goofy played flush draw, straight draw but I’m leaning more strong goofy played hands.
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05-26-2021 , 06:50 PM
How's Vegas JK?

Hilton sold me a cheap hotel package in exchange for a timeshare presentation (lol) plus I got some free vouchers for hotel rooms so I'm gonna make a trip out there fairly soon.

Any recs on where the best MTTs are, both series and just daily MTTs? I've never been to Vegas before!
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05-26-2021 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EggsMcBluffin
How's Vegas JK?

Hilton sold me a cheap hotel package in exchange for a timeshare presentation (lol) plus I got some free vouchers for hotel rooms so I'm gonna make a trip out there fairly soon.

Any recs on where the best MTTs are, both series and just daily MTTs? I've never been to Vegas before!
Eggs, make it here for a tourny series- especially Venetian deepstacks. Very soft fields and buy ins for all levels with amazing structures.

For dailies, I would stick with Wynn if you can as they pay the best with a solid structure. They have a daily $200 Sunday- Thursday that is solid and moves along fairly quickly. Also maybe check out the orleans and south point for nightly dailies that might have bigger fields (haven’t played at either but I assume they have daily fields that are super soft).

Venetian deepstacks is a goat series though. The structures are so amazing and allow for lots of play. I feel even some of the reg pros here kinda suck and punt too much in the multi flight events. If you do even a little solver study, you are loads ahead of the average player in these fields. It’s also very easy to figure out if someone is a decent poker player.
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05-28-2021 , 12:43 AM
Jk is right about the Orleans. They are quite soft for dailies. I haven't played since Covid, but they have a Sunday that is $200 with $100 add ons that looks quite juicy.
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05-28-2021 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
I think I have an advantage however I might be dumb but I don’t think much edge is gained at 40bb stack depths. I think there is more value in getting to half a mill vs grinding a 40bb stack. Attacking the bubble and acquiring heaps when play starts to matter feels like a better move but I could be very wrong.



I think this could be a call btw and re eval turn. I feel

Villian no question has the goods always here and rarily folds to my jam. He’s going to have all of the sets, 2 pairs, maybe a goofy played flush draw, straight draw but I’m leaning more strong goofy played hands.
I FT this event, and can tell ya that having a stack is vaaaaaaaluable later down the line. Players will punt their stack with hands they have no business punting.



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05-28-2021 , 10:17 PM
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I FT this event, and can tell ya that having a stack is vaaaaaaaluable later down the line. Players will punt their stack with hands they have no business punting.



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No question I agree with you however it’s easy to abuse the bubble also when people act like a min cash of $800 is a big deal.
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05-29-2021 , 03:48 PM
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No question I agree with you however it’s easy to abuse the bubble also when people act like a min cash of $800 is a big deal.
Lol this is so true. Around the bubble its easy to add several big blinds to your stack. The VDS series is so soft upto $800 buy in. The $1,100 begins to get a little more challenging. Wish I was there for more tournies, but this event is pretty long.

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05-30-2021 , 10:42 AM
More hands. Played a $400 Last night with a turbo like structure ($100 bounty). Extremely soft field. Ok, so we have 13 left and 12 are paid (min cash is $331) and I really don’t care about min cashing too much. Kinda wanna try to get a stack. I have like 38k at 3k bb level and have A9dd in cutoff 6 handed. Easy jam always? I rip and run into AA. I guess this is close to +1.5 bb shove so I don’t think anything wrong with it. I don’t know exactly where I was in chips but I assume it was 13/13 or 12/13 and really didn’t want to play hand for hand and grind out a min cash that I consider meaningless. (Tourny paid 4K to first which was more end goal vs a lol small sigh min cash)

Other hands from tourny-

I have K8cc in bb. Some lady jams 2k at 300bb level. I have 13-14k in bb. Button flats and folds to me. Do you ever spew jam here? I didn’t and just called and ended up losing to a worse hand from button (jq?). Idk do you ever just rip here for the chance to collect $100 bounty? In all honesty, I would say nah bc button can flat with a lot of big hands (like AA,KK,QQ) to try and induce spew from blinds.

I have 24k later on. Another person jams small stack. Let’s say blinds are at 600
Level and a person jams 3k from ep. I’m either button or cu and call with AA. I just call and the bb calls. I go on to check/bet/bet a qqxxx board. Are you fine with call here? I feel it can induce spew from people looking to pick up bounty and the pot is kinda big with the 3k shove so it’s not like we don’t have a simple pot going forward with small sprs to flop.
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05-31-2021 , 10:18 AM
If you don't care at all about the MC, then of course this is a jam. I agree, hand for hand sucks; you had some life equity shoving there as well.

On the second hand, a lot depends on whether button covers you, and whether he is flatting range, or condensed. I'd tend to just call and play poker, even OOP, this hand isn't too terrible in this spot.

See the above...I am fine with flat, especially if there are aggressive players behind me.
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