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02-17-2019 , 05:02 PM
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wain
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No info on villains.
What do we do in this spot?
I reasoned that 4 bet of sb must be super strong (JJ,KK, AA, AK) given utg still had to act.


UTG: 3,620 (52 bb)
UTG+1: 4,688 (67 bb)
MP: 5,000 (71 bb)
MP+1: 4,103 (59 bb)
LP: 5,450 (78 bb)
CO (Hero): 12,556 (179 bb)
BU: 4,455 (64 bb)
SB: 7,060 (101 bb)
BB: 9,026 (129 bb)

Pre-Flop: (204) Hero is CO with Q♥ Q♣
UTG raises to 142, 4 players fold, Hero 3-bets to 450, 1 fold, SB 4-bets to 1,470, 2 players fold, CO (Hero) folds

Total pot: 1,211
SB wins 1,211
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02-17-2019 , 08:18 PM
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We flat the 4-bet and try to hit overpairs in position. AK represents too many combos.
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02-17-2019 , 10:48 PM
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We obviously expect this to be QQ+/AK, but considering AA/KK will flat the 3b with some frequency and we have position I'm flatting the 4b and gii without overs. Not a fistpump though.
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02-18-2019 , 12:27 AM
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Lot of AK

flat the 4 bet and hope you didn’t run into AA or Kk

Though there is merit (IMO) to 5 bet jam given a read he is loose pre
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02-18-2019 , 12:46 AM
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Imo position is part of the reason to flat. I'm rarely 5b jamming here. I need to know V is very aggressive or I have shown down light 3b's.

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02-18-2019 , 12:47 AM
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I'd much rather 5b AK because of blockers and we can get some folds from QQ/AK

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02-19-2019 , 03:28 PM
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I'm not enamored with 5-betting here just because it turns our hand face up for the most part and we can easily overbluff, especially if we think we're going to flat with AA some percentage of the time. I'm more inclined to flat here with any hands we're going to play and protect my range.
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02-19-2019 , 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpgiro
I'm not enamored with 5-betting here just because it turns our hand face up for the most part and we can easily overbluff, especially if we think we're going to flat with AA some percentage of the time. I'm more inclined to flat here with any hands we're going to play and protect my range.
This.

Do we even need a 5betting range here?
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02-20-2019 , 02:10 AM
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Only if we start to see V 4b light

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