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07-11-2020 , 06:49 AM

jdj

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 20

Hi guys.

70 left so well in the money, no significant payjump coming up.
Villian has normal stats.

9 handed bounty
4500 / 9000 ante 1225

Hero on LJ with 50bb opens to 2.1BB with K

Villian on CO calls with 86BB
Pot is: 5.5BB

We go heads up to flop K

Hero c-bets half pot
Villian calls
Pot is: 11BB

Turn:J

Hero: 2/3 pot (7.2bb)
Villian: raises to 129.600 (14.3BB)
Pot is 32BB and if we can call for 7.2BB we have 38BB behind

How would you guys proceed? And why?

Thanks for the feedback. Feedback on the line taken is also welcome.

Last edited by jdj; 07-11-2020 at 07:14 AM.

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07-11-2020 , 10:48 AM

maletaja81

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 177

def call,river crying call

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07-11-2020 , 04:34 PM

PunnyYouSayThat

Tattoo Commissioner

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,097

define "normal" stats

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07-11-2020 , 06:27 PM

maletaja81

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 177

What could he have? Aq,Q9
I dont see people calling Q9 half a pot, to draw 4 outs..
AQ call could be ok, but why no 3 bet?
only hand remains 44 that beats you
Bad thing. Lots of 2 pair combos real life calling not reraising for value...Mayby only KT reraising, but even then i doubt

One thing more, still you cant fold, just to eliminate some fancy plays bluffs. If u fold, everyone starts to exploit you

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07-12-2020 , 02:51 AM

000Puh4u

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 322

AQ is unlikely here due to 3betting pre probably.
If villain has Q9 then why only minraising? There are a lot of draws e.g. flush or boats.

A slow played set? Maybe but unlikely. You are blocking the top two sets and they would have probably raised pre.

I think I am jamming the turn. If we start folding top two on this spots, it will be too tight even for a nit like me. If they got me they got me.

Call and re-evaluate OTR is also an option but I do not wanna get a nasty river card and be put in a terrible situation when villain may be bluffing, I have a strong hand and I am OOP. And there are a ton of bad rivers for you.

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07-12-2020 , 11:51 AM

3for3poker

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,502

I'd jam turn. The fact that it is a bounty tournament means Villain will call off with hands we beat.

His min raise leaving you a pot behind is a little troublesome, since it looks too easy to shove...

BTW, you need to tell us the size of the bounty. If this a progressive, the bounty might be quite significant relative to the payouts.

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07-17-2020 , 01:39 AM

wowsooooted

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

jam turn camp, we very high up in our range and he can have worse stuff raising ott like JT,KQ (sneaky AA??) only really worried about 44 here, others like KK,JJ,TT likely 3b pre

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07-17-2020 , 08:43 AM

jdj

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 20

Hi guys,

Thanks for the feedback. We jammed turn and lost to AQ.
I was doubting bewteen Jam turn vs call turn and make a crying call on river if we did not boat up.

Ciao!

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07-17-2020 , 07:17 PM

3for3poker

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,502

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Originally Posted by jdj

Hi guys,

Thanks for the feedback. We jammed turn and lost to AQ.
I was doubting bewteen Jam turn vs call turn and make a crying call on river if we did not boat up.

Ciao!

GG. Unlucky. Call turn, crying call river makes more sense in a traditional tournament. Villain will be calling off here with a LOT of Pair plus straight draws. Alas, he the straight already...

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07-17-2020 , 11:44 PM

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BignutzOnerz

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 25

Def not jamming turn here, what are we ever getting called by the we beat? There also aren't any turn bluff raises that make sense. Kind of a sick spot none of the options feel good. Jamming feels the worst, folding feels the second worst but calling turn and facing a river jam feels horrible as well.

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07-18-2020 , 10:44 AM

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LiveMTTDegen

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Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 514

i think a check/call on flop is best.
Turn is a bet and probably a shove if get re-raised.

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AQ call could be ok, but why no 3 bet?

Some players like this player don't 3 bet with AQ. It's probably something to note if you ever play this player again in the future.

Last edited by LiveMTTDegen; 07-18-2020 at 10:51 AM.

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07-18-2020 , 11:45 AM

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3for3poker

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,502

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Originally Posted by LiveMTTDegen

i think a check/call on flop is best.
Turn is a bet and probably a shove if get re-raised.

Some players like this player don't 3 bet with AQ. It's probably something to note if you ever play this player again in the future.

AQo is a mix in Acevedo's 60BB ranges in this spot. FWIW, there are few pure 3 bets, QQ+, AK; some hands are mostly 3 bet like ATo K9s A2s as your weaker 3 bets...

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07-18-2020 , 12:36 PM

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lolposting2016

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 2,149

Call sorry you lost

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