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09-21-2018 , 09:32 AM
Blinds 10/20

Seat 1 SB 2500
Seat 2 BB 2000
Seat 3 2000
Seat 4 2400
Seat 5 800
Seat 6 2500
Seat 7 2000
Seat 8 2000
Seat 9 Button Hero 2000

Hero has T T

Seat 3 limps in for 20, seat 4 raises to 40, 1 fold, seat 6 calls, 2 folds, Hero?

playing against unknowns.

what sort of ranges can we give seat 3, seat 4 and seat 6 who are unknowns?
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09-21-2018 , 10:10 AM
What is the buy in?
I'm assuming this is live tourney and the utg limp and min raise would generally indicate weak players.
The limp means nothing other than player is probably weak/passive. Could be 50% of hands
Min raise is usually also wide - player should be raising much more to iso the limper, so probably a weak player who likes to raise - maybe top 30%
Caller has similar range as raiser, but we can exclude premium pairs

You could call and hope to hit set or raise big to thin the field, but if this tourney field is very weak, even a raise to 250 or so might just get 3 callers and you will be in tough spot multiway on most flops. Call.
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09-21-2018 , 10:20 AM
I agree with Bonzo.

A call is reasonable, but I think it's +EV to raise big here. Raise to 200 - 350 (the loser the players, the more you raise). If seat 3 re-raise then we can maybe put them on a big hand. Seat 4 is most likely raising any hand that they would play.
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09-21-2018 , 10:53 AM
Limp=weak player with weak hand.
Min raise over limp=weak player average hand
Flat= marginal speculative hand does not change anything we know about the player.

Side note - utg limp could be low pair or trap with AA/KK if he comes in for the 4bet we can let this go.

You're far ahead of v ranges so stick in a good sized 3b

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09-21-2018 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonzo
What is the buy in?
I'm assuming this is live tourney
$100 buyin. Live MTT.

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You're far ahead of v ranges so stick in a good sized 3b
I'm not sure about 3 betting with TT here. I'm not wanting to create a big pot pre-flop with such a vulnerable hand like TT. I've got position in the hand too. I can hope to hit trips and win a big pot. when i don't flop a T I can get out of the hand on dangerous flops.

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if this tourney field is very weak, even a raise to 250 or so might just get 3 callers
regularly 3-4 callers pre-flop in these tournies early. raises are normally smaller though. My game plan is to play tight early in these tournies.

as played i call. sb and bb fold and seat 3 calls.

flop is 9 7 2

seat 3 checks. seat 4 bets pot. seat 6 calls. hero with T T ?

are we up against trips here?

Last edited by pokerhsmtt; 09-21-2018 at 11:54 AM.
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09-21-2018 , 12:28 PM
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Min raise is usually also wide - player should be raising much more to iso the limper
If he had a over pair he should be raising more preflop right?

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flop is 9h 7s 2c

seat 3 checks. seat 4 bets pot
why would seat 4, min bet pre-flop and now bet pot on flop? if he had AA, KK, QQ, or even JJ wouldn't he bet more to isolate pre-flop?

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seat 6 calls on flop
seat 6 hasn't got AA, KK, QQ, JJ or TT you would think?
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09-21-2018 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerhsmtt
$100 buyin. Live MTT.



I'm not sure about 3 betting with TT here. I'm not wanting to create a big pot pre-flop with such a vulnerable hand like TT. I've got position in the hand too. I can hope to hit trips and win a big pot. when i don't flop a T I can get out of the hand on dangerous flops.



regularly 3-4 callers pre-flop in these tournies early. raises are normally smaller though. My game plan is to play tight early in these tournies.

as played i call. sb and bb fold and seat 3 calls.

flop is 9TT? 7TT?: 2TT?:

seat 3 checks. seat 4 bets pot. seat 6 calls. hero with TTT?: TTT? ?

are we up against trips here?
This thought process is far too nitty. We want a bloated pot in position with a strong range advantage, why would we ever shy away from that? Then the flop comes down 9 high? Fist pump set up spr to gii on any turn. If you're that worried about running into a set 100bbs deep idk what to say other than good luck playing short stacked and trying to min cash cuz that's all we're ever going to be doing.

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09-21-2018 , 02:55 PM
100BB deep in low stakes MTT this is a 3b raise pre without reads. As played super easy call flop/decide turn, it is not inconceivable we're up against trapped KK/AA or a set here but there are plenty of 9x and 7x and T8 in seat 6's range and air in seat 4's where we have to call at least once, maybe twice.
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