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Originally Posted by MahatmaJohnson
Thoughts on all streets welcome
$50 w/re-entry, 24 left (already ITM)
Blinds 2k/4k w ante
I start the hand with ~110k, top 10 in chips, nobody at table has less than 50k.
Villian (BB) recently joined table with 90k
8 handed, hero raises QdJd UTG+1 to 8.8k, folds to villian who calls
Flop Js7s4d (pot 23,600)
V check, hero bets 8,900, V calls
Turn 6c (pot 41,400)
V check, hero bets 14,000, V calls
River Kc (pot 69,400)
Villian shoves for 58,000, Hero ???
Brief thoughts I had, at least during hand -- PF: could sometimes fold, but had been pretty quite lately and table wasn't too aggressive. Flop: Small bet for value, would bet much of range the same way. (yeah?) Turn: Card is better for his range and I'd hate to get checkraised but given that he called flop, he's probably got at least a few outs. I wanted to get a little more out of him to see one more card and planned to check back most rivers. Bad size if I'm betting here? River: When I saw that card, I said to myself that if I were him I'd shove, and then he did and I'm not sure where to go from there.
Annoying & close spot, but considering he’s so polarized here, I think we can find a call—esp with the unknown factor. I feel like in an unknown situation his shoves will be weighted more towards missed draws and in a reg vs reg situation, it will be weighted more towards value. In a reg vs reg situation, the missed fd on the flop is so obvious it’s unlikely he would take this line knowing that people tend to hero call in polarized situations. In an unknown situation (or if you had any suspicion of him being a weaker player), I think it would be a mistake to assume V is recognizing that the turn card is better for his range—for that reason and because we want value/protection from combodraws, a turn cbet is mandatory imo. When he x/c the turn he’s pretty capped to 1pair+draw type hands because he would want to get value with 2pair+ from a J (and get protection himself).
as V, it's a really bad spot to take this line with a missed draw because of the obvious missed flop fd but is he really just x/c 2pair+ on the turn? If he backdoored some weird Kx 2pair hand then I guess nh
Last edited by PunnyYouSayThat; 09-17-2020 at 11:48 AM.