Not too much info on villain.

Are we betting or x/c Flop?
Calling or folding turn?
I assume river is a fold against unknown opponent?

Thanks in advance!



***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 02, 10:35:35 ET 2018
Table 2418365179 1 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( 14447 ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 1,2, Hands: 146
Seat 2: Player2 ( 9206 ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 9, 3B: 5, AF: 2,5, Hands: 44
Seat 3 SB: Player3 ( 18827 ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 142
Seat 4 BB: Player4 ( 9706 ) - VPIP: 41, PFR: 5, 3B: 5, AF: 4,7, Hands: 44
Seat 5: Hero ( 8428 ) -
Seat 6: Player6 ( 16562 ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 0,0, Hands: 82
Seat 7: Player7 ( 2843 ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 7, AF: 3,0, Hands: 77
Seat 8: Player8 ( 19710 ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 17, AF: 1,8, Hands: 44
Seat 9: Player9 ( 9760 ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 11, 3B: 2, AF: 0,4, Hands: 112
Player1 posts ante of [10].
Player2 posts ante of [10].
Player3 posts ante of [10].
Player4 posts ante of [10].
Hero posts ante of [10].
Player6 posts ante of [10].
Player7 posts ante of [10].
Player8 posts ante of [10].
Player9 posts ante of [10].
Player3 posts small blind [50].
Player4 posts big blind [100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qd Ad ]
Hero raises [300]
Player6 folds
Player7 folds
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 calls [300]
Player3 folds
Player4 calls [200]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Jc, Ah ]
Player4 checks
Hero bets [400]
Player2 calls [400]
Player4 calls [400]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
Player4 checks
Hero checks
Player2 bets [1702]
Player4 folds
Hero calls [1702]
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
Hero checks
Player2 bets [2878]
hero?

Size up flop. I think we gotta lead there to deny equity. Definitely larger. Really kinda shutting down after that looking for cheap showdown. Our range utg is going to include all sets A broadways and KQ so we look stronger than we are when we bet it, at least if the bets larger. The bottom of our range is 77-99 and QQ/KK that we're not leading. So it's really the worst hand we lead flop with gotta respect any calls.

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I don't think flop is an underbet spot, especially against 2 players we're not trying to rep a wide range. I definitely like a bet but we're at the bottom of our "value" cbetting range, but I still categorize this hand with hands like 2p and sets: using the same flop sizing.

Seeing as we're utg we have 2p+ a lot here. I don't know if we can mix sizings really. It's a straightforward play multiway A9 should not be in our range and AT is. Which leaves us bluffing with what? KK/QQ? Not a fan. So mixing sizes only turns us face up. Think we just stick out 2/3 with AQ+

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check/fold turn.
flop is ok.

[QUOTE=SHIP_DAT;54331455]Seeing as we're utg we have 2p+ a lot here. I don't know if we can mix sizings really. It's a straightforward play multiway A9 should not be in our range and AT is. Which leaves us bluffing with what? KK/QQ? Not a fan. So mixing sizes only turns us face up. Think we just stick out 2/3 with AQ+

Thanks for your thoughts.
What are your ideas on turn and river?

I found this a tough situation as I expected villain to raise a good hand on the flop (two pair and sets) on this board.

Wrong assumption?

Flop seems std for vacuum 3way situation when one of guys is on BB.

Please don't.

Logic behind flop bet and turn check on a blank?

Logic on turn check is I'm likely beaten

Turn feels pretty close between betting and checking to me. I think our hand is way ahead of BB's overcalling range on the flop, much more concerned with button because both his preflop calling range and flop calling range our stronger than when the BB calls closing the action.

On the turn I think we need to split our "value" range so that AQ is no longer in the same category as TT for example. I probably check/call turn and check/call river with our combo as we block KQ, Aces up, and dont block hearts and 98, seems like a good bluff catching candidate at this point, not too concerned with getting more value from worse.

I agree river is nasty but I'm calling for aforementioned reasons without better reads.

What hand beats you that didn't raise flop?

Checking turn is terrible IMO.

As played I'm calling river.

Nice analysis, thanks.
I tanked because I was on two thoughts: villain normally raises two pair or better on the flop. On the other hand villain looked very strong by betting turn in multiway pot on coordinated board and betting river.
I called and villain showed an ugly AK
Pretty nice value bet from mister button I guess ha

I see your point, but on the other hand, which hands I beat will call a turn bet?

why do you bet flop then?

Fundamentally you should bet again for protection really often (w/ your specific hand) given we are still 3way and they both will still have tons of pairs+smth, draws and worse TPs.

You can check AxQh more bc it plays better vs draws and not be too worried about getting blown off equity given your nut advantage.

sounds right. However your betting part of this split can have several sizings option.
Theoretically its necessity bc each hand in your range has its own equity vs opp`s range and possesses own blocker qualities thus has its own optimal bet sizing in every spot.
So for simplification sake we can unite hands w/ similar qualities into groups and assign different sizings to each group in accordance with their respective qualities.

QT, QJ, KT, KJ, Q9, K9, Ax

You also still have outs to the nuts.

If were going to ck/cl I'm just going to bet.

Flop is fine, don't think sizing is terrible but could go bigger. Turn is somewhat close because we're multi-way, would always be betting this heads up. As played agree river is generally a call w/o reads as most better hands are raising flop.

Don’t fold turn. River is close..

Yes, very standard to not have a raising range there.

So r u suggesting underbetting turn?

betting half pot ott 3 way is allowed

Consider checking flop. Cbetting AQ here is far from obligatory multiway. The fact that you didn't feel able, probably correctly, to barrel a blank turn is testament.

I think we have to give villain credit for having a Jack or KQ here. I just don't see many villains bluffing two streets here given the multi way action and board texture. I think there are some Jack X flush draw hands that might play this way on the turn, given the pot control shown by both you and other villain.