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07-09-2018 , 11:58 PM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 500/1,000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players

UTG+1: 40,547 (VPIP: 28.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 60)
Hero (MP): 24,372
CO: 24,312 (VPIP: 14.41, PFR: 10.96, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 222)
BTN: 36,265 (VPIP: 19.35, PFR: 8.77, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 62)
SB: 46,540 (VPIP: 21.57, PFR: 8.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 52)
BB: 19,598 (VPIP: 13.89, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 36)
UTG: 46,804 (VPIP: 19.42, PFR: 14.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 105)

7 players post ante of 100, SB posts SB 500, BB posts BB 1,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,200) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2,175, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1,175

Flop: (5,550, 2 players) 4 J 2
BB checks, Hero bets 1,700, BB calls 1,700

Turn: (8,950, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 5,000, BB raises to 15,623 and is all-in, Hero calls 10,623


~65 remaining in $160 8max on ACR, low 30s pay out.
BB was playing tight over a small sample...one notable previous hand:
V opens BTN 2.2x, Hero defends J8o, AdJh9h V cbets half, we call, 5d6d we x down and win (V hole cards not shown).

Kind of an interesting and close turn spot here with QJ...not loving our kicker obv but not sure we want to xb on double fd board (esp not blocking hearts)...

Last edited by RalphWaldoEmerson; 07-10-2018 at 12:10 AM.
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07-10-2018 , 12:56 AM
1st...fold pre...
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07-10-2018 , 03:25 AM
Nah
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07-10-2018 , 06:19 AM
I agree it feels like an ambitious open off our stack size. I also feel like we need to x back one of the flop or turn but ap we cant really fold here (I dont think).
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07-10-2018 , 06:45 AM
not sure what you're aiming to do other then induce when you bet so small otf.

can't see any reason to bet turn other than to get him to pile in, he's not going to flat worse and fold river with half his stack in the middle. and protection isn't valid as he's going to pile in all his draws, too.
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07-10-2018 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by erc007
1st...fold pre...
Question : the stat of V's in this hand implies that they are kind of tight players..VPIP is slightly greater than 20% only for one of them..Isn't opening QJo justified in spots like this?
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07-10-2018 , 11:38 AM
Pre is debatable

Interesting spot. I think V probably c/r heart draws OTF as well as 2 pair hands, so this leads me to believe that they are either trying to realize their fold equity with the diamond draw OTT or has made 2 pair OTT. A3 also seems reasonable, a little more reasonable than 36 given his stack size.

Considering you say V is tight, I don't see too many 2 pair combos on the board that would defend this pre so this drastically reduces the number of combos that V can have and would probably lead me towards calling and hope for a black card and say GG if they have A3.
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07-10-2018 , 01:12 PM
Yes it's a loose open pre...table was playing very passively at that point...definitely debatable though esp w/only 25bbs...if I'm gonna open loose though I do prefer hands like this which flop well (compared to say AXs or KXs)
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07-10-2018 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cizixap
Question : the stat of V's in this hand implies that they are kind of tight players..VPIP is slightly greater than 20% only for one of them..Isn't opening QJo justified in spots like this?
I fold this but RWE plays >> me post, so profitable open for him. Should be close to bot opening range (unless ur an ACR reg...then somewhere in the middle.)
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07-10-2018 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by '97
not sure what you're aiming to do other then induce when you bet so small otf.
There is a tendency within the pop to call with worse...come to think of it...it may even be correct (for them) to do so?

Also (if we wanna get real tricky) we can bet this sizing with > combos than TP.
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