Yea I’m not calling you a nit. I just wonder why is calling pre considered close or bad? Seems like an easy hand to play post and check folding doesn’t really damage stack.

Lol live players.... you wanna see flood against.

Been thinking about this hand. Many have derided the CR. How bad is it? Depending on the Villains 3 betting range on the flop, this may get us away from some terrible spots, ie most of Villains 3 bet value range. And how many Villains are 3 betting hands that are worse than ours? Most ranges are high value combo draws and sets that we are fine folding to.

If Villain is strong enough to have the right amount of lower value semibluffs like a gutter with BDFD then it is no so good.

Put it another way, those of you who check/Call the flop, are you hanging on for 3streets on clean runouts? Is that clearly better than CR/F Flop?

If you're going to fold to always fold to a 3b when you hit 2p on a combo draw board and you're going to be happy when V folds the flop to your C/R, then are you doing this with ATC? Why call with 98o if you're only happy continuing/shoving against a 3b after the flop with a straight or trips? If that's the case, then you shouldn't be check-raising bottom 2.

In other words, if you're going to check-raise this flop and fold, then you don't need 2p to make this play against this V. If you think they're folding enough, you may as well just check-raise any two cards, because you're never gonna be that happy when they flat the flop bet here, either. It's not a given that 88/99/KK/K9/K8 are always going to 3b you on the flop when you check-raise them.

C/r is just button clicking. OMG two pair, slow play, fast play, now wtf do I do??

Stacks are too deep and tournament structure is too slow to bloat the pot with an awful size and button click.

What's the plan here? C/r bottom 2 and get 2 more streets of value? Only folding out hands you beat and bloating the pot vs hands crushing you or draws (exception AA AK). Especially with the tiny size and being oop.

Pre is a meh defend pre ante vs an EP open where you're obviously readless.

Flop is a very easy check/call.

Fyp...but agree with everything else u said

Don't think the checkraise is much of a mistake . Villain is likely cbet high freq on this board so you will def want some bluffs and value c/r . Ok so now you face a big 3bet when you are fairly low in your value c/r range so now you fold and that's fine. Maybe c/r 98o means you have too many c/r and you should only c/r 98s idk but I don't think it's a huge mistake rly . You're going to want to c/r 99 and 88 as well as K9s plus some combo fd like JdTd and some Adx and QdTx stuff like that . Again not all the time but just because you got 3bet with 98o doesn't make your c/r terrible . If villain is 3betting way too wide then they will get punished when you have a hand you can continue with

From a balance perspective, IMO it's about how often you want to bluff on this texture vs. villain. If you want to c/r bluff lots of diamond and straight draws (and if you're defending 98o you have JTo here as well) then you may need to have 98o in your c/r range. What you continue with here vs. a 3-bet gets really weird, because 99 and 88 (even more than KK vs. some players) are hands that you would absolutely expect to 3-bet here and 98 has pretty good removal vs. those hands.