This was last nights day one flight for the Almighty Stack ($1M gauranteed) at Borgata, $450 buy-in. The flight only got about 360 participants, way less than the day time one yesterday and almost 50% less than what today's got.

I was at a relatively crazy table, which included one person firing 4 bullets and continually getting sent back to our table, he was open shoving for 100-200 bb regularly and doing other wild stuff. As a result there were a few big stacks on the table. I was largely card dead but was able to run up to about 240k from a starting stack of 100k when this hand happened.

blinds are 2000-4000 with 4000 bb ante

I am in the lowjack with AJ stacksize of 240k. It folds to me and I open for 11k, I tend to open less than 3x in tournaments for the most part.

Villain #1 is the afformentioned action player who was shoving a lot and making wild plays. He also talked incessantly about all of his money and demanded that we start "playing like men." He is in the cut off with around 90k. He flat calls.

Villain #2 is a younger guy, quiet and thoughtful. He has 3bet with position on a few hands before this and has not gone to showdown that I remember. He is on the button and has me covered. He 3bets to 44k.

Both blinds fold.

I have a bit of a quandry here as I do not like the idea of playing my hand out of position here and I have no idea what Villain #1 will do. I think a lot about folding here as I am near the bottom of my range for calling the 3bet and am out of position. I also think there is a good chance that if I flat that villain #1 will shove.

I tank for awhile but ultimately decide that the button's 3bet range could be pretty wide here and that he might be trying to play a pot with the cutoff who likes to give action. With this thought in mind I decide to 4bet. I think about various bet sizes before deciding to just shove, believing that the cutoff is capable of calling off light and not wanting to give the button a good price.

How is my thought process here?

AJs plays well enough postflop that I'd prefer to just flat. 3-ways to the flop feels a lot better than getting 5b by the BTN or going to the flop OOP in a bloated pot when the BTN flats.

If it were AJo you can only 4b/fold, but I think AJs is close enough to call. Hard to find a fold here but you haven't actually seen the BTN show down a light 3b yet. It's very possible he hasn't been 3b/squeezing lighter.

I like your thought process. You do not want cutoff to **** it-shove with whatever he flatted with in the 1st place and then button to ISO with 77/KQ or something. Sorry that button happened to have one of the hands at the top of his range and busted you both.

Btw, was cutoff Chris Limo?

Super std call w/ fish between you.
4 bet is horrible.

If fish NY backraises and 3bettor come along you can decide/soulread but mostly going with it when you understand a) reg is incentivized to squeeze you out of pot w/ fish and b) fish jamming crap which makes 3 bettor interested to proceed w/ range wide enough to allow AJs stack-off comfortably 3way.

Ofc 3 bettor can just be a nit, we're running slightly worse this case.

I disagree. This is not a regular fish, but a LAGtard who very well might call a jam himself with whatever suited connector or weak Ace he might have.

On another hand, if we just call, the LAGtard will be more likely to ship than to call for half his stack and we don't want the initial 3bettor to rejam and push us off our hand.

In some spots we have to take our chances, this seems like one of those spots.

4-bet jamming AJs for 60BB? I get that the button can be shoving wide and all that, but I would think we'd want some flats here and AJs seems like a prime candidate.

why 4b? We are essentially turning AJs into a bluff and push out all the hands we do well against and keep in all the stuff that has us crushed.

Fairly std flat call, lets take it to the streets and play some poker