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08-31-2010 , 08:55 PM

ssnyc

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I have been very active...opening a lot

thoughts on each street...good value line and sizing?

Full Tilt Poker $40,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds - 9 players
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Yeshaya (MP2): t3000 25 BBs
Tenkamusou (CO): t5945 49.54 BBs
locoenlacabeza (BTN): t2650 22.08 BBs
KTEN24 (SB): t3480 29 BBs
Billy Ripken (BB): t2725 22.71 BBs
SharkInTheWater (UTG): t5437 45.31 BBs
Rundd (UTG+1): t7860 65.50 BBs
ComeOnPhish1 (UTG+2): t1950 16.25 BBs
Hero (MP1): t4530 37.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t180) Hero is MP1 with Q

3 folds, Hero raises to t275, 1 fold, Tenkamusou raises to t600, 3 folds, Hero calls t325

Flop: (t1380) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, Tenkamusou checks

Turn: (t1380) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets t688, Tenkamusou calls t688

River: (t2756) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets t1566,

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08-31-2010 , 09:46 PM

norinco88

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I like turn size and I think I would bet slightly smaller on the river. 1k-1.3k I think at that price you occasionally get called by 1010-KK trying to hold on. Despite how much of a value bet it looks like. Depending on this player your bet may accomplish the same thing and you obv make more when called here.

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08-31-2010 , 11:22 PM

rockin

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IMO looks good. Considering the board, I like trying to get 2 streets of value, either cbet flop, ck turn, fire river, or as played. Versus your image, trying to get 3 streets of value from a mid/small pair or ace rag might be possible but is really history dependent (i.e you said you had been opening a lot, but hadn't said you were double/triple barreling or getting out of line post).

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08-31-2010 , 11:40 PM

itscml

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I like betting less on the river but otherwise this seems well-played. I'm assuming flop you were going to c/c?

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08-31-2010 , 11:42 PM

Howtown

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4 bet ship pf.

As played nh.

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09-01-2010 , 12:11 AM

itscml

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Originally Posted by Howtown

4 bet ship pf.

Yikes no way man.

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09-01-2010 , 12:57 AM

mullen

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I think I like bigger on the turn, like 950 or so, think anything he peels with (stuff like JJ-KK) he'll peel at least one street after checking flop almost regardless of sizing. River is pretty rough since I think you have the best hand almost always and it's gonna be really hard to get 2 streets so maybe a little smaller OTR?

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09-01-2010 , 03:47 AM

hsuman

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I like it.
Subtle check on the flop gets a ton of information along with controlling the pot size (cause you're at the very least calling a raise)
Turn bet is fine, gives up his range to be KKQQ
I might even bet less on the river just because I'd put that person in that range.

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09-01-2010 , 03:55 AM

zedveron

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am i the only one who folds this pre? even with an active image i don't think people are 3-betting us all that light pre antes and this doesn't seem like a great hand to flat a 3b OOP with 40 bb, but maybe i'm just a huge nit! probably just shove river because i think it looks bluffier.

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09-01-2010 , 05:28 AM

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M1cKmAcK

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i'd bet a little more on turn and a little less on river. otherwise looks good. I have a tendency to fold in similar spots pre, but w/ stacks and sizing idk maybe a call is ok?

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09-01-2010 , 05:32 AM

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SMUTTTT

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im not sure i like checking flop not saying its in any way bad but i probably stick to checking with AJ/AT< and obv w/ no kicker at all.
with that said i wanna go for 3 streets of value

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09-01-2010 , 06:08 AM

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relderretep

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Originally Posted by ssnyc

thoughts on each street...good value line and sizing?

all streets good, i like the line & sizing

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09-01-2010 , 06:58 AM

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Lion King

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Originally Posted by zedveron

I fold pre too, trying to find out if I'm too nitty in early levels though.

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09-01-2010 , 08:16 AM

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daviid

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1.1k otr. nh.

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