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Tight Fold? Tight Fold?

03-11-2019 , 12:56 AM
$450 buy in tournament. Level 3. Blinds 50/100. Hero and villian has slightly above 100bbs each. No information on villain except playing selectively.

Villian in cut off raise 3x to 300. Hero button calls with Q7 suited. Heads up.
Flop 7 / J / 2 - two diamonds one club. Villian bets 400 and hero calls
Turn Q club. Villian bets 1200. Hero raise to 4000. Villian all in. Hero folds based on villian image and thinks losing to possible JJ or QJ and villian unlikely to be bluffing in this spot or shoving with a one pair hand.

What do you think?
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03-11-2019 , 02:33 PM
Pf looks bad, Turn we should either flat or raise/call, raise/fold makes no sens to me.
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03-11-2019 , 03:49 PM
Pre is close, probably at the bottom of our call range BTN vs. CO so if you even wanted this to be a 3b or fold hand that's fine.

Lean somewhat towards flatting turn here and not having any c/r hands, mostly because we don't really have that many strong hands other than Q7s/QJ. Our 77/22 probably mix flat and raise flop, our QQ/JJ should 3-bet pre. We can very often either call down river if villain fires again or bet for value on safe runouts if it checks to us.

If we are raising because we feel like it's the top of our range, we should probably call off. We do have some removal to QQ/QJ/77 and it's plausible villain is spazzing here with AA/KK or flush draws.
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03-11-2019 , 04:51 PM
Yeah no way we should c/r fold turn on a double flushdraw board. Call it off now and fold pre probably best.
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03-11-2019 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadonk612
Yeah no way we should c/r fold turn on a double flushdraw board. Call it off now and fold pre probably best.
When I raise on the turn, it would have been a polarising play. When villain shove, I only have a bluff catcher. Based on villian still having not committed much chips and only one river card left, I thought he was not likely to bluff in that spot. Anyway that was my thought process. Additionally he was playing selectively and don't come across as a fish.
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03-11-2019 , 11:39 PM
Definitely folding pre. 3-bet if you wanna play this hand IMO.

Can’t fold when people over play KK/AA.
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03-12-2019 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ignatiusee
When I raise on the turn, it would have been a polarising play. When villain shove, I only have a bluff catcher. Based on villian still having not committed much chips and only one river card left, I thought he was not likely to bluff in that spot. Anyway that was my thought process. Additionally he was playing selectively and don't come across as a fish.


Yup I hear ya. I just think call is far superior line ott.
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03-14-2019 , 08:45 AM
pre is obv fine, we are insane deep and it's sooted.

would probably just call turn if you're going to fold to a 3bet. Too often he'll rip an overpair putting you on a FD to fold
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03-14-2019 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by '97
pre is obv fine, we are insane deep and it's sooted.

would probably just call turn if you're going to fold to a 3bet. Too often he'll rip an overpair putting you on a FD to fold
It's not fine, 3x open from CO? We are insanely deep and we will end up in trouble with a crappy hand like Q7s. Not to mention, I'm not sure If there's ante in play, which will make this even worse flat. Deep we want nut-hands, like A2s, Kxs hands etc. At least we can flop the nut flush, second flush.

Q8s seems okayish, but even then maybe I would prefer 3bet vs 3x open from CO. In general, If they raise bigger, I want to 3bet more than call. The price for a call is just way worse when someone 3xs before you. 2,5x, 2,2x I would consider calling more.
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