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06-24-2019 , 03:33 PM
BB ante format. 6k/6k/3k. Been hand for hand for a decent while playing 9 handed. The table has seen one or two flops at most. Most hands have been taken down by just an open raise there have been 3 3bets that have taken pots down pre.

Villain has about 220k hero has 84k. Villain opens from the low jack to 18k. We have no real info on him other than he's mid to late 20s white guy. Hero looks down at QQ. Thoughts on what hero should do?
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06-24-2019 , 04:29 PM
See stone cold bubble of $2,500k wsop thread. He had 13bbs, you have 14bbs.
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06-24-2019 , 04:46 PM
Well, guess I should have read that first.
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06-24-2019 , 05:20 PM
3 bet or jam. This really isn’t a hard decision. I almost wanna say 3b small to have Villian call and almost gii on any flop. Nothing wrong with jamming as it looks weaker.

First option is better chipwise imo but super high variance and will be gross if Villian has Kx or ax.

I think shove is best option but I personally would consider 3b to 50-60 lol. I know that thought will be hated here but I see nothing wrong with it. On low flops, Villian is going to have to call your jamski on flop bc it’s so small.
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06-24-2019 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
3 bet or jam. This really isn’t a hard decision. I almost wanna say 3b small to have Villian call and almost gii on any flop. Nothing wrong with jamming as it looks weaker.

First option is better chipwise imo but super high variance and will be gross if Villian has Kx or ax.

I think shove is best option but I personally would consider 3b to 50-60 lol. I know that thought will be hated here but I see nothing wrong with it. On low flops, Villian is going to have to call your jamski on flop bc it’s so small.
I 3b to 42k. With how the table had played I figured that actually would look stronger then a jam and hopefully get a fold or worst case a call. Then I could jam/fold the flop. He thought about it for about 15-20 seconds then moved all in. I called it off. He had AK. He improved I didnt. I was just wondering if there was ever a case for me to just flat it. It was my only lingering thought. I've never been in this spot on the bubble. But, after the other thread and your comment I think I'm totally ok with my play.

I did get semi lucky. Another player ran queens into aces on a different table so we split the min cash. $6 profit covered my gas money.
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06-24-2019 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by VooDoo901
I 3b to 42k. With how the table had played I figured that actually would look stronger then a jam and hopefully get a fold or worst case a call. Then I could jam/fold the flop. He thought about it for about 15-20 seconds then moved all in. I called it off. He had AK. He improved I didnt. I was just wondering if there was ever a case for me to just flat iron t. It was my only lingering thought. I've never been in this spot on the bubble. But, after the other thread and your comment I think I'm totally ok with my play.

I did get semi lucky. Another player ran queens into aces on a different table so we split the min cash. $6 profit covered my gas money.
Regardless to what happened, if you shove you will be called here. Flatting the raise is so meh imo. Only 2 hands beat you and 1 hand has solid equity against you (ak). For a second I thought the sizing might be too small but 2.33x the open seems fine.

I think flatting here is way too exploitable. Me personally, I’m probably going to Cbet my whole opening range against your stack size and just bet super small so hero has to pitch or go for it based on flop.

I find it odd Villian doesn’t just 4bet stuff it in here against your stack size. In this spot, I’m not really a fan of folding a whiffed AK based on what here has behind after 3b. Villian really should just stick it in here against hero based on his stack size and the fact he has AK. I hate to say this but I feel it’s almost never wrong to get in AK against someone with 14bbs unless on a satty bubble.
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06-24-2019 , 09:25 PM
Might have worded it poorly. He did 4bet jam pre and I called.
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06-24-2019 , 10:29 PM
Gii. You have QQ.

Why the 3-bet to half your stack rather than push?
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06-25-2019 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Gii. You have QQ.

Why the 3-bet to half your stack rather than push?
Just to have some flexibility.
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06-25-2019 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VooDoo901
Just to have some flexibility.
Flexibility? You can't fold after putting half your stack in.
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06-25-2019 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Flexibility? You can't fold after putting half your stack in.
Why not? Because, I'm pot committed? It would be hard to fold absolutely. Any folding range on any flop would make me exploitable in the long term. But, I will never see the long term playing on the stone bubble of a tournament. I understand if I dont double here I'm crippled and have very little chance of getting more than a min cash.

Future I'm probably just jamming it in though.
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06-25-2019 , 08:49 PM
Voodoo, i was not being flippant with my first post - the pros and cons of flatting, 3bing, shoving (and, i guess folding) were all hammered out in The other thread- only difference is you have one more bb and a 44% chance of seeing an overcard on the flop....

Black Thought is right that the only wrong answer is this is an "easy" spot.
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06-25-2019 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Voodoo, i was not being flippant with my first post - the pros and cons of flatting, 3bing, shoving (and, i guess folding) were all hammered out in The other thread- only difference is you have one more bb and a 44% chance of seeing an overcard on the flop....

Black Thought is right that the only wrong answer is this is an "easy" spot.
Oh I know you weren't. I'm glad you pointed the other thread out. It really told me everything I needed to hear.

It was one of those poker spots you never want to have to face.
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06-26-2019 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VooDoo901
It was one of those poker spots you never want to have to face.
TBH, I disagree. I would rather have many chances on the SCBubble to make any +eV play. Math is math and you will profit in the long run. You tend to remember the busts more than the double-ups but that's just human nature.
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