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Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo.

09-06-2013 , 01:59 PM
In the money
($335 14th, 1st $ 3.5k), 14 togo.

Villain: Is a winning reg ($ 1,199,688 PW / 14% ITM). 28/21 with 12 in 3-b over 55h in the tournament so not to much info other than hes active.

Hero: Previouse orbit I lost aip with AQ <AK aip from MP against shortstack on table, also opened 9Js UTG+1 but checkfolded 7K97 rainbow board when villain bet 1/2p from btn after calling my cb on flop. Opened JJ right hand after in UTG which now was folded around + we did defended with AT BB vs. SB which whent to sd. This orbit I opened AQs from CO hand before this occurred so its expected that villain believe we may be light here.

No Limit Holdem Tournament
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7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$100+$9

Stacks:
wudupmyninja (UTG) (36,499) 36bb
UTG+1 (54,445) 54bb
MP (21,146) 21bb
CO (104,823) 105bb
BTN (25,033) 25bb
SB (32,946) 33bb
BB (41,037) 41bb

Blinds: 500/1,000 Ante 100

Pre-Flop: (2,200, 7 players) wudupmyninja is UTG Q A
wudupmyninja raises to 2,000 (34499), 2 folds, CO raises to 5,285 (99538), 3 folds, 3285 to wudupmyninja (34499)?


Suggestions?
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
09-06-2013 , 02:22 PM
4bet/call 11k-12 / call
would flat vs someone tighter
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
09-06-2013 , 02:26 PM
Flat 3bet play postflop

edit:

missread stacks

Still for 4bet/calling to be better than flatting he has to be really out of line with 3bets
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
09-06-2013 , 02:31 PM
Flat
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
09-06-2013 , 03:14 PM
I like a 4bet to about 10,800-11,200..Flatting is tough oop, and vs a good, winning player like you described I don't like it all
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
09-07-2013 , 09:10 AM
Hi, I think flatting is ok since samplesize is small and you opened utg.

hide your sn!?

Have you overplayed a reg in prev. hand you posted?
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09-07-2013 , 10:37 AM
pretty std so far
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09-07-2013 , 07:30 PM
I would flat the 3b. this type of villian shouldn't be too light here since he has no reads of you opening light from ep.
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09-08-2013 , 04:04 AM
I'd probably 4b/c against reg with all the chips. Flatting is fine.
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
09-08-2013 , 07:52 AM
in the 4b/call camp
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
09-08-2013 , 09:18 AM
4bet has to be std, but 3bet and peel on 99.9% of flops and reeval turn also looks viable.

do w/e but don't fold.
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
12-17-2013 , 04:51 AM
Not to sure we should 4b ever in this spot tbh.
Spot $ 109: AQs UTG with 36bb. 7 handed with 14 togo. Quote
12-17-2013 , 05:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WashUrHandsPlz
Hi, I think flatting is ok since samplesize is small and you opened utg.

hide your sn!?

Have you overplayed a reg in prev. hand you posted?
I change my opinion to 4b/c.
wtf was I thinking...
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12-17-2013 , 06:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WashUrHandsPlz
I change my opinion to 4b/c.
wtf was I thinking...
<25bb is a nobrainer but with 31bb flatting and play post is feels much better w/given SS + if he is top of range we are dead anyways. Another thing, by us 4b there is a good chance he will 5b wide which we obv are not to happy about. So what do we really gain by 4b gii vs. just shoving then? Hes is obv. stacking less guessing some pairs + XX we dont want action from.

Should we really have AQ in a oop 4bet range in this setup, how about call and consider to lead small.
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12-17-2013 , 01:35 PM
I would flat. Now that we've reached a consensus, what next?
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12-17-2013 , 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CremeLaCreme
opened 9Js UTG+1 but checkfolded 7K97 rainbow board when villain bet 1/2p from btn after calling my cb on flop.
This seems meh without a read that he's really tight; there's like no sets left and we block some kings.

About the hand in OP, think we'll still show a tidy profit when we keep clicking vs this villain but flatting is best as a default.
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12-17-2013 , 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gregz41
I would flat. Now that we've reached a consensus, what next?
By donkbetting very small gives us options. Normaly he will punish and is raising where we can 3b shove repping variouse hands who are tearing hes range apart on many textures.

If hes on top of hes range we are dead pre anyways, by playing post we give ourself the oportunity to push him off/puts him in a very uncomfy situation. Donk/shove might be the best alternative since its more profitable than a checkrais.

Last edited by CremeLaCreme; 12-17-2013 at 02:04 PM.
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12-17-2013 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pablito_21
This seems meh without a read that he's really tight; there's like no sets left and we block some kings.

About the hand in OP, think we'll still show a tidy profit when we keep clicking vs this villain but flatting is best as a default.
I agree, no reads was prolly why the breaks was put on here but did not play it great. Well observed
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12-18-2013 , 05:07 PM
9985/call. If he's aggro and capable of shoving light and he could think you're making a move, give him a chance to hang himself
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12-18-2013 , 05:59 PM
Flatting is weak. What does everyone expect is going to happen by flatting? Well just make perfect decisions at every street oop? Villain won't be aggro post?
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12-18-2013 , 06:00 PM
just 4-bet shove pre. we have more FE than we do with small 4-bet. what's our flop plan when crusher hood call, guys?
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12-18-2013 , 06:06 PM
He's not gonna hood if people size it right. He's also not gonna shove light if we 4b 1/3rd of our stack. I agree with shove pre. Get him off your back a little.
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12-18-2013 , 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CremeLaCreme
Not to sure we should 4b ever in this spot tbh.
why do you feel this way? we are at a stack depth where 4betting should be a large part of our strategy imo. our 4bet range vs villain still can be more polarized so we have hands that want to gain value by putting in another bet AA-QQ and hands we would like to commit to the pot/get value and still charge the "bluff" part of villains range AK AQs and then we have our own bluffs thatwould like to fold villains 3b/f range and will fold to more action. dont know exactly but im prob 4betting 25% of my utg open range vs this villain
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12-18-2013 , 06:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cicakman
He's not gonna hood if people size it right. He's also not gonna shove light if we 4b 1/3rd of our stack. I agree with shove pre. Get him off your back a little.
people like to hood in 2013; particularly crushers in position at $109 BI IMO. but when we get to the point that we are sizing our 4-bet right, it's pointless not to shove.

agree about backing villain off and sending a message.
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12-18-2013 , 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikram
people like to hood in 2013; particularly crushers in position at $109 BI IMO. but when we get to the point that we are sizing our 4-bet right, it's pointless not to shove.

agree about backing villain off and sending a message.
yes not when the 4b is large enough. when some dolt will make it 9999 of course hes gonna hood.
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