Hi All,

Hero recently moved to new table. Villain seems OK although not great, no special reads on him.

Effective stacks 34k, blinds 400/800/100a

V1 in MP1 calls
V2 in MP2 calls behind
hero in CO raises to 2500 with KT
Both call.


Flop 4Q3
pot: 9600

So a good flop for us, I am planning on cbetting about 4.5k ic checked to us, to my surprise V1 leads out for 3.5k. V2 folds. Hero calls. I put V1 on some sort of Q, these donkeys open limp with AQ as well, I don't think raising here has got any merits. A set is possible but I think V would bet more.

Turn 9
pot 16.5k

V leads out again for 6K. At this point we can never fold. Our K may be live too. So now there are 22.5k in the pot and we have 28K behind. Anyone likes a shove here? If we hit a flush on the river we may not get called, if a K hits we call a bet and if checked to we bet, if a J comes and V has QJ we most likely stack him.

Opinions? Call or shove

Whats the bi, structure, dynamic, field ? What does seem ok mean, ie sizings, etc ?

Would be bigger pre w the iso, or limp along. Would call again.

call, with 4 jacks added to 9 club outs the pot odds are just about right, especially if more can be made on some good rivers

thanks guys.

It was a 30mins clock, with good blind structure (no big jumps).

I did call, but I am trying to be more aggro in general and this seems a good spot as even if I have complete air it's hard for V to call an all in with QT+.

calling is fine. can make an argument for jamming too.
what % of V range calls here based on your observations to date? it's all a question of fold equity

^ this

As played I dont mind shoving turn but if we decide to call we can still shut down if we miss.