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Should I call off with TPTK? Should I call off with TPTK?

01-23-2019 , 06:15 PM
Two day ,$400 Buy in tournamentive atvWynn. 3rd level with 100/200/200. Hero has been fairly tight. No 3-bet, mostly open and folding on flop. Showed one hand where I bet on turn and river when I hit the flush. I have 19600 which is effective. Villain has been playing fairly straight forward. I have seen him get out of line yet. He limp called with ATo and bet on flop multi-way on an Ace high flop. And defended his SB with 87o.

Villain limos in UTG+1, two other limpers and I make it 1500 with AcKx. Villain calls and the rest fold. Pot is around 3900.

Flop K56r. He checks and I bet 2k. He calls

Pot is 7900. Turn brings 4. Now I am not sure but it likely brought a flush draw. And it was a red 4. So I don’t block the nut flush draw. He checks and I bet 5k.
He tanks for a bit and I felt like he was weak. But then shoved. He covers my 11k. Should I call here ? Feel like I am only beating KQ and maybe KJ. Hard to see any flush draws in there.
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01-23-2019 , 06:44 PM
2.5:1 I'm calling if you think he has KJ+ in his range. 1 combo of KK 9 other set combos 6 combos of 33 that beat you. I'd suspect it's more likely he has a fd or 77 than KJ here. Anyway 8 combos of each KQ/KJ and 4 of AK we chop with, given the pot odds I call if I think he can have KQ/77.

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01-23-2019 , 08:14 PM
A passive recreational player raises the turn after you bet twice on a K high board...

Muck it! You should be bet/folding all the way down.
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01-23-2019 , 09:49 PM
1500 otf is enough. Turn should be smaller in relation to the pot too imo.

AP puke because you have half your stack in the middle and are in a horrible spot. It would help to know exact flop suits. Can V have Kx with a flush draw?


Probably lean toward fold against the general population.
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01-24-2019 , 05:36 AM
I might check turn to pot control. As played fold.
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01-24-2019 , 06:12 AM
I ch turn or bet small. Still you can valuebet him later streets, if he has KJ,KT
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01-24-2019 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
I might check turn to pot control. As played fold.
This

Sighaments fold
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01-24-2019 , 12:34 PM
I folded. Based on odds if I believe he has some 7s it’s a call. But didn’t think he would do that then. I asked him later and he said he had a K and didn’t think I had anything. I don’t quite believe him.

But yeah should have bet less on both streets.
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01-24-2019 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sabloid
I folded. Based on odds if I believe he has some 7s it’s a call. But didn’t think he would do that then. I asked him later and he said he had a K and didn’t think I had anything. I don’t quite believe him.

But yeah should have bet less on both streets.
I agree with everyone above, that it mainly comes down to range construction and the type of player he is. As a rec c/r turn, this can be pretty nutted to be fair. Limpers tend to only be aggro once they hit their hand.

But if you believe he has any bluffs here, or any combo draw, with 2.5: 1 you can construct a range in which calling is +EV.

However, this is a pretty ****ty bluffing line I lean with the rest on a fold.
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01-24-2019 , 05:00 PM
Check turn mostly, villain does have a few 2p, 78, all the sets, probably isn't giving us three streets with worse. As played it's close. It's actually conceivable villain will raise Kx here on coordinated boards to try to deny equity to backdoor draws and Ax. (i.e., the villain scared to get drawn out on) I think the fold is fine in-game but I would seriously considering calling off the next time we face that villain.
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01-24-2019 , 07:05 PM
I like smaller otf (1/3) and probably check this turn with plan to call most rivers is good. It seems weak but against an EP limping range don't think we can b/c turn profitably for this sizing especially.
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01-24-2019 , 08:10 PM
Betting 33% of your stack on the turn is basically pot committing.

If I bet the turn, it would be for about 3,800 or so. And I would be folding to a raise. So for me its an easy check back making it look like I have AQ/AJ/88-QQ and keeping all of villain's bluffs in, and I would call off a river bet. The 4 is not a great card for you because it completes the straight.

As played my action would depend almost entirely on my read. You said he seemed weak. I would go with that and call.
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01-24-2019 , 11:43 PM
The tank and then shove is usually pretty strong
Ak likes the bigger sizing otf
Turns kind of tough a lot of his trashy limps made something
Read less I’d just try and be unexploitable and I’m quite sure that ak is gonna be a call at equilibrium.
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