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SB vs BB early in tournament SB vs BB early in tournament

04-07-2019 , 04:25 PM
First levels of day 1C of a 200 dlls live tournament

Blinds 150/300.

Hero in SB stack 30K, Villian in BB stack 20K had played some hands and get unlucky. Villian seem pretty tilted and upset (he has lost a third of his stack in last 15 min).

Everyone folded to the blinds.

Hero in SB with AQs raises to 900. Villian calls.

Flop: QT5 rainbow

Hero bet 1.2K, villian call.

Turn: T... not remember suit but no possible flushdraw...

What line do you take and why?

Spoiler:


Hero check. Villian bet 1.8K... hero call

Turn : A... Hero checked.. Villian bet 5K.. Hero fold...

I folded because it seemed to me it was obvious he had the Ten (villian had invested too much in the hand) but then I thought I had to call that river bet.. but I'm not sure that line of C/C turn and C/C river is the best.


Last edited by metalrenas; 04-07-2019 at 04:31 PM.
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04-08-2019 , 05:41 AM
I think x-c turn is correct but we need to call river, too high in our range, we're allowing him to buff ATC if we fold that and people do weird crazy s.hit in blind vs blind he might very well be floating flop with no pair/no draw.
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04-08-2019 , 10:25 AM
You're playing too scared here imo

I'd just bet the turn , if he raises you OTT then you could consider folding

think about his range OTT, he has [QX, SD's , some TX] maybe weak PP's?

he has a bunch of stuff besides TX and he is weighted towards hands that you beat
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04-08-2019 , 12:12 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if the overwhelming majority of our ranges wants to be checking the T turn

AQo just wants to c/call turn & c/call river (if villain bets turn)

Against this particular guy I imagine we're even more keen on checking the turn to him to let him spray chips at the pot with whatever random floats he has--I think in practice he'll have the expected ones, and then some small % of random combos you could never even guess would be in his float range, so there's that minor "fudge factor" that helps us even more
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04-09-2019 , 06:27 PM
Pre, flop, and turn is correct imo. Maybe can bet turn since we get value from weaker qx. As played I cant believe you ended up laying this down. He can still have aj that bluffed turn and is now value betting vs a bare q. He can still have random 89o,j9o, and k9o, which is a **** ton of combos. This is a snap call if I've ever seen one. What are you really going to xc turn and river with that is better than this hand? You probably barrel off your tx, and if you did check call turn with a boat, you are now jamming for value.But you could've saved yourself vs someone who's ridiculously underbluffing here and giving up his turn bluffs so could've been a sick fold. generally though I'd snap it off. If hes tilted he might be more inclined to blast off those bluffs I named
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04-16-2019 , 03:04 PM
Seems really bad to be folding after checking the turn. Our hand is at the absolute top part of our range and villain is going to barrel ATC at this point. All of his bluffs are betting this river as well.
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04-16-2019 , 11:07 PM
Pre fine obv on the basis of this being a premium hand but for the sake of your overall strategy this isn't a pure open.

Remember your range prior to acting is ATC (to say nothing of card removal effects for prior folder's folding ranges) so your overall strategy needs to have a plan for dealing with the times you have K2o in this spot. It's going to require shaving something off the top of your opening range and sticking it into your completing range lest your completing range becomes too weak.

Nevertheless, it's prob ~50/50 deal with opening or completing and if V never adjusts then sure, go ahead and open with impunity.

AP turn just might be the worst card in the deck for your range. Doubt V can fold even T2s pre, and you actually have very few Tx combos. Contrast that with V who likely has almost all suited Tx and something like T7o+ or T8o+.

So prob x/c turn and don't ever fold river. As much Tx as V has, he can easily have straight air. You shouldn't have that much Ax except the broadway Ax so V has all the incentive in the world to barrel every hand in his range that doesn't have SDV.
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