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River spot early in the big River spot early in the big

12-01-2011 , 05:49 PM
Villain is a fish according to sharkscope with a -66% roi over 400 games, and has so far being flatting quite a lot and overall giving the impression of being a callingstation.
My image is TAGish and haven't done anything out of line.
This is the first time I'm 3betting and the first time villain calls a 3bet.

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds + t10 - 9 players
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BTN: t3888 M = 18.51
Hero (SB): t3315 M = 15.79
BB: t2970 M = 14.14
UTG: t2189 M = 10.42
UTG+1: t1516 M = 7.22
UTG+2: t4591 M = 21.86
MP1: t12897 M = 61.41
MP2: t1283 M = 6.11
CO: t7507 M = 35.75

Pre Flop: (t210) Hero is SB with A T
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t180, 3 folds, BTN calls t180, Hero raises to t477, 2 folds, BTN calls t297

Flop: (t1304) 8 A 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (t1304) Q (2 players)
Hero bets t788, BTN calls t788

River: (t2880) K (2 players)


So what are we doing on the river as played? also comments on the line overall, I know it probably should be a fold pf
but as played should we cbet the flop, and if so, how do we proceed?
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12-01-2011 , 05:58 PM
don't like pre pre ante OOP...
post flop seems fine...I want to bet fold river small as played
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12-01-2011 , 06:31 PM
against this villian I probably c/f river as I dont think we ever get value from Qx otr and its basically impossible for him to have a worse Ax.
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12-01-2011 , 06:36 PM
if we need to be this unbalanced on the flop i think pre is probably bad
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12-01-2011 , 11:00 PM
Whole hand kind of sets yourself up for problems/difficult to play. I probably lean towards c/fold OTR since I don't see how the hell we can get value out of worse, but I also might level myself into thinking villain can be value-betting thin or have some ******ed bluff since our line makes no sense if we check the river. Oh and what ssync said about pre. Pre-ante there's no need for this.
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12-02-2011 , 03:39 AM
i think pre is bad OOP with that sizing, but w/e.
as played you are beat if he has AJ/QK but thats it imo, i think he can find a call with Axs/disagree that he never has worse Ax as losing player.

in general i think i have the nuts here and bet every street to get moneys in after 3betting pre and flatted by him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssnyc
don't like pre pre ante OOP...
put the glasses on old man
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12-02-2011 , 03:57 AM
555/fold pre
bet flop as played 575
turn ok
c/f river now
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