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05-31-2017 , 04:43 PM
tourney has 10+ day 1's with unlimited re-entries until start of level 9 (100/400/800)
$1M gtd prize pool at only $550 buy-in so it attracts a ton of rec players
told myself to just play snug since the field is so soft but i realized with the structure (antes kick in after first hour) it's still a crap shoot
15k starting stack, 30 min levels
hero is young asian prob LAG image
i'm a cash player so a lot of these might be spew/punts but just wanted some thoughts

1. 100/400/800, 15k stack
A3o UTG
hero regged right as it closed.
first hand from break, only 4 of us at the table so other 5 hands into the muck.
UTG+1 folds out of turn, so our shove needs to get through 2 people
BTN (20k) is tight reg, BB (20k) is old man.
we open shove. thought opening 2.2x isn't the best as hand doesn't have great playability post and villains prob aren't calling correctly

2. 100/400/800, 13.6k stack
67s SB
hero regged right as it closed, 2nd hand dealt at the table.
in the 1st hand hero was BB, UTG+1 opens, BTN 3b (looks like a young reg) and takes it down.
very next hand the 3bettor from previous hand opens 2.1k and folds to us in the SB. I just feel his CO open range, esp when he took a pot down right before is just super wide. we reshove

3. 50/200/400, 30k stack
33 BB
rec player opens 1k UTG+1 off 11k stack, 4 people call (none with over 15k), we're in the BB with 30k stack. just got moved to this table so no reads.
this one's prob spew i prob should just peel, just felt like a squeeze with all the dead money might be +EV

4. 500/2k/4k, 40k stack
Q3s BB 6 handed
20 remaining, 18 cash, 12 advance (don't really care about cashing, rather take my chances to take a playable stack ~200k into day 2)
BTN (asian lady in her 50's 80k) limps. SB (40yo man 80k limps). no reads since this was my first hand at this table.
we shove.

5. 300/1k/2k, 50k stack
89dd HJ
we open 4.4k, folds to chip leader (200k+) in BB who defends
he hasn't played many hands since being moved to our table 1-2 orbits ago. one noteable hand he defended BB against BTN open, check raised on ATTcc flop
Flop A72dd, he checks, we bet 5k, he check raise to ~15k
just thought he shouldn't have a check/raising range on this board, esp after check raising that last flop
if he was check/raising something stupid like AT or AJ to "see where he's at," we can get him off of it; or if he's playing big stack bully (check/raising two flops where he shouldn't have much of a x/r range) he would fold. in hindsight if he has KJdd we're pretty screwed, but i felt on an A high flop most rec players just check/call their flush draws here

6. 500/1500/3k, 60k stack
66 BB
27 left 18 cash 12 advance
HJ jams 38k, folds to us. just got moved to table so no reads, except hand right before he jammed and got called by BB and he won A5>A7. this one's not a shove myself but is this a hand where i just fold it and wait for a better spot? is this the very top of my folding range? i think 77 is def a call, could be wrong.

thanks for reading
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05-31-2017 , 04:51 PM
Maybe don't wait until the last second to register, so you could build a stack early and have more of an edge over the field (hard to really play snug/pick your spots well when you start out with <20BB).
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05-31-2017 , 06:15 PM
Hand 3, you apparently shoved at least 30xBB effective with 33 when you could defend and see a flop 6-way getting 14-1 immediate odds. Flat call is better.
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05-31-2017 , 09:53 PM
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Maybe don't wait until the last second to register, so you could build a stack early and have more of an edge over the field (hard to really play snug/pick your spots well when you start out with <20BB).
Ban these snarky and idiotic posts that don't even offer any insight on the smallest portion of the OP
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05-31-2017 , 11:57 PM
With the exception of the first 3, the rest are pushing small edges which in an (almost) turbo structure is never bad.


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06-01-2017 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by watevs
Ban these snarky and idiotic posts that don't even offer any insight on the smallest portion of the OP
I stand by my post and if you think I am a troll you are incorrect here. OP mentions a soft field and is clearly an experienced/way above average player in a field like that (based on his other posts). However, OP then goes on to wait to enter this huge field tournament at the <20BB stage eliminating most of his edge. If the goal is to get 200K stack by the end of the day then entering this late makes it even harder.
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06-01-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by watevs
Ban these snarky and idiotic posts that don't even offer any insight on the smallest portion of the OP
lol watevs thats all i ever see is you coming in trolling with no strat
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06-01-2017 , 01:20 PM
1. is fine but probably 2 loose overall 6.5/10
2. seems fine 8/10
3. just call 2/10
4. seems fine cuz you like never get called but id probably still check 7/10
5. ez peel 3/10
6. sigh fold for this sizing (not a shove)
imo
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06-01-2017 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AALegend
I stand by my post and if you think I am a troll you are incorrect here. OP mentions a soft field and is clearly an experienced/way above average player in a field like that (based on his other posts). However, OP then goes on to wait to enter this huge field tournament at the <20BB stage eliminating most of his edge. If the goal is to get 200K stack by the end of the day then entering this late makes it even harder.
i mean yeah, ideally i'd like to play with deeper stacks against a soft field, but sometimes things happen and i'm unable to get there early enough. also, it's possible some of these hands happened after i busted right before close and re-entered.

but thanks for that one bit boosting my ego
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06-01-2017 , 04:59 PM
3.) Is a bit ambitious but I kinda like it given you cover all of them and people never call as wide as they should. Speaking of which...

6) is definitely a GTO call from a sub-13bb shove
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06-01-2017 , 05:05 PM
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1. is fine but probably 2 loose overall 6.5/10
2. seems fine 8/10
3. just call 2/10
4. seems fine cuz you like never get called but id probably still check 7/10
5. ez peel 3/10
6. sigh fold for this sizing (not a shove)
imo
thank you for being the first to address all hands.

hand 1 i was ready to sigh fold as i'm effectively in the HJ but once UTG+1 folded out of turn i couldn't help myself

i agree hand 3 is prob the worst as i mentioned it's prob the most spew out of all the hands. in game i just thought it gets through pretty often and i could pick up the dead money, but in hindsight the risk/reward prob just isn't worth it esp in a rebuy when people are stacking off lighter

hand 5 (89dd on A72dd), are we just bet/calling our flush draw and folding brick turns if he bets? seems pretty weak when his value/gii range should be pretty narrow here.. if we flat we would have put in 20k off our 50k stack.
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06-01-2017 , 05:13 PM
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3.) Is a bit ambitious but I kinda like it given you cover all of them and people never call as wide as they should. Speaking of which...

6) is definitely a GTO call from a sub-13bb shove
3. yeah i mean i kinda took a while ingame on my decision to the point the dealer looked at me and asked if i knew it was my turn.. if the opener had more chips or if the others had 20k+ stacks i would've def just peeled

but yeah i knew as soon as i put the money in it was super marginal


6. you're good with calling off 13bb off a 20bb stack?
i'm a cash player so i still struggle with these calloff/shove spots with small/middle pairs.. ingame i thought 77 is def a call, 66/55 marginal, 22-44 we can prob just fold or is this wrong
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06-01-2017 , 09:40 PM
3. With 33, there is too much value in calling 6-way. A small pp is better to reshove with HU when it would play poorly postflop to flat call. Axs and suited broadway are better to push with, particularly Axs has a blocker and less value to flat with.

5. 98dd on A72dd, his raise is unusual, so he either is bluffing, has a strong draw, or is inducing. If he is bluffing enough, the push works. However, when you get called you have poor equity against better flush draws and sets, which should be a large a part of his range.
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06-01-2017 , 10:49 PM
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3.) Is a bit ambitious but I kinda like it given you cover all of them and people never call as wide as they should. Speaking of which...

6) is definitely a GTO call from a sub-13bb shove
Oh and agree here with the 66 hand that's a pretty easy call for 13bb. Not sure if gto means anything for calling here tho :/
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06-01-2017 , 11:34 PM
I'm folding the 66 without a good read. I don't think most live players are shoving that wide with 13BB when we are less than 10 spots from the money. The fact that he shoved the hand before probably tightens his range a bit also.

Hate the 33 as mentioned.
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06-09-2017 , 12:00 AM
1. Pretty close. The problem with jamming is that when we are called, we are almost always getting called by hands that have us dominated. When it gets through, we are only increasing our stack by ~2k, I think it's better to just open to 2.5x or whatever. Often times it will accomplish the same thing as a jam would and get through. And it shouldn't be that hard to play post flop given description of villains. + easy fold and chips saved when we get jammed on.

I rate this jam 5/10.

2. Although jamming with suited connectors in this spot is good, I think 67s is just a little bit too weak. We still have 7 orbits with our stack, we are behind everything that isn't 22-55 and way behind 77-AA. I think we get called and are too far behind too often for this to be good. I think I like 9Ts+ for our jamming range.

I rate this jam 3/10.

3. You have a hand that's getting a fantastic price to set mine. And instead we are jamming with very little fold equity... with all the dead money in there, UTG+1 is getting priced in to call with pretty much his entire opening range, which 33 is doing really bad against.

I rate this jam 1/10.

4. Everything is working in your favor here. If you jam and get through you are increasing your stack up to ~55k which is an excellent result. You're up against two players with weak ranges and medium stack sizes that will make it difficult for them to call. And even if they do call, you will almost always have reasonable equity with the suited queen.

I rate this jam 9/10.

5. I like your logic in this situation. But I would have liked a check on the flop... we have a hand that would love to see a free turn card. And we already know villain is capable of check raising which we don't want to see. But as played, this is a nice spot to jam. The risk/reward at these stacks looks pretty good... we should get a decent number of folds for the reasons you stated, and our odds are decent enough when called. Calling is going to put us in a bit too many awkward spots on later streets. However, it would have been nice to pick a hand with bigger diamonds or with more equity with our diamonds to take this line (while checking back hands like this).

I rate this jam 7/10.

6. I think you're pretty much on the money with your thoughts here... this hand is right on the razor's edge between call and fold. When it's this close I ere to table dynamics to make my decision.... but you just god moved, sooo yea. You can do whatever you want here and not feel bad about it.

I rate this jam 6/10.
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06-09-2017 , 09:49 AM
1. I hate this. I think this is a great spot to 2x or 2.2x. So what if it doesn't play great post flop. You get a call from the BB and C'bet 90% of the flops and take it down.

2. Spewy and ambitious. I think your read has to be a lot stronger to reshove here. If you are a high stakes cash game player, you are probably thinking, screw it lets gamble. But its not a good move.

3. This a call. You should try and hit your set. I think it can be a shove under the right circumstances though.

4. Fine, I think it's good. I don't always shove here though and I probably should more often.

5. Yup, you gotta do it. The only other option is to call and shove the turn if he checks. Otherwise you get into a very awkward spot if he bets 15K on the turn.

6. I think this is close. What makes me more likely to fold is that you have a workable stack if you fold, but you can only shove if you call and lose.
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