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Raise, call or fold turn bet? Raise, call or fold turn bet?

01-13-2019 , 05:50 PM
Partypoker $55 Sunday main event

H has Q3s in SB
H raise 2.5x, BB calls
Flop QH JC QC - H raise 3bb, BB calls
Turn 9D - H check, BB raises 9bb, H re-raises 27bb, BB shoves, H calls
River 2C
BB turns over QTos


BB has possibilities of straights and full houses, straight draws and flush draws. Should I just call turn bet?
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01-13-2019 , 10:26 PM
b/decide turn, depending on sizing

Your hand is too strong, and that board is getting too wet, to just possibly let a free card roll off. But if you get raised OTT you're prob toast

Curious why you checked turn. Do you not feel that worse will call, or that you deny equity from Tx/clubs by betting turn?

AP, your x/r is super polarized and I'm just gonna assume heavily (almost entirely?) weighted towards value so I prefer x/c with you being this far down in your value range (you should have all better QXs, and all boats, and all straights too)
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01-14-2019 , 06:44 AM
I default to cbet-x on QQx with trips. That's a line which credibly reps a weak range so you can expect tons of loosey-goosey turn stabs.

In this instance you have many value targets and barrelling also reps air due to the draws and x/r presents polarisation issues so may lean towards barrelling. So overall I like your play, I think I prefer x/r to x/c, then probably fold to the jam depending on stacks because they always have it but in game I call because I haz trips.
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01-14-2019 , 07:00 AM
Just complete pre don’t raise
Lead flop
cc once called
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01-14-2019 , 12:16 PM
Calling pre. If raised by BB I'm likely calling and then this hand becomes a disaster. But I might fold pre to a raise.

As played bet flop.

On turn I lead out and then decide on raise. But if I call turn and/or river its a crying call.

c/r turn after raising pre is incredibly strong so it allows villain to play perfectly against you. Villain gets to check back hands like JT or flush draws. And when villain is ahead you lose everything.

Assuming we bet turn and villain calls, I would check river and call to snap off missed draws. It may all be in anyway but at least we keep in villain's bluffs.
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01-19-2019 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jl121
b/decide turn, depending on sizing

Your hand is too strong, and that board is getting too wet, to just possibly let a free card roll off. But if you get raised OTT you're prob toast

Curious why you checked turn. Do you not feel that worse will call, or that you deny equity from Tx/clubs by betting turn?

AP, your x/r is super polarized and I'm just gonna assume heavily (almost entirely?) weighted towards value so I prefer x/c with you being this far down in your value range (you should have all better QXs, and all boats, and all straights too)
I check the turn trying to induce a bluff from all draws (based on recent hand history of V). I thought my check raise could have been interpreted as calling his bluff, making V believe that he may have the best hand with a draw, or maybe JJ.

Basically, I misread the situation based on past hands.
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01-19-2019 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bearer
I default to cbet-x on QQx with trips. That's a line which credibly reps a weak range so you can expect tons of loosey-goosey turn stabs.

In this instance you have many value targets and barrelling also reps air due to the draws and x/r presents polarisation issues so may lean towards barrelling. So overall I like your play, I think I prefer x/r to x/c, then probably fold to the jam depending on stacks because they always have it but in game I call because I haz trips.
Folding would have left me with too few chips, otherwise I would completely agree.
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01-20-2019 , 06:24 AM
3x or call pre.

Keep betting with blinds dynamics ott.
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01-20-2019 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by wynner88888
Folding would have left me with too few chips, otherwise I would completely agree.
If by too few you mean mathematically pot committed, and not I'm committed because I haz trips and I don't feel like grinding a short stack, then I prefer x/jam
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01-21-2019 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bearer
If by too few you mean mathematically pot committed, and not I'm committed because I haz trips and I don't feel like grinding a short stack, then I prefer x/jam
I may have been left with about a quarter of my original stack if I remember rightly.
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01-21-2019 , 01:28 PM
it depends for me whether BB has been super aggressive raising out of BB, playing hands to river, showing big hands, MY stack and current blind levels. If you're gunning for money and in SB with 30+ BB, i dont hate a fold here either... you can complete and if BB raises, fold there... the way it was played, you raised, BB called, you flop trips, then i would c-bet and go from there.. i wouldn't check raise the turn as having trips here out of SB is probably top of range with such a flop. you could cbet flop, bet/call turn, check/fold to river jam. then you have 1/2 your stack still in play. for me, i would probably flat pre, fold to raise, if checked to flop, c/c, c/c river... what i would really prefer is better hand selection for me personally. sometimes its hard for me to know what to do in certain spots and if im sitting on 30/40bb and blinds are not killing me, i would lean more to just letting the hand go and getting an entire orbit for a better hand/better spot to get some action and pick up blinds.
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