PokerStars - 50/100 Ante 12 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 55.93 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (MP+1): 103.08 BB
CO: 50 BB
BTN: 100.45 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
SB: 27.1 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 47.76 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 80.32 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 11)
UTG+1: 49.72 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)

8 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.46 BB) Hero has 9 J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (6.46 BB, 2 players) 2 T Q
BB bets 3.23 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, BB calls 3.77 BB

Turn: (20.46 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 10.23 BB, fold

BB wins 20.46 BB

preflop : I hope no one is going to roll their eyes at opening with J9s and 100BB deep..

flop : donk betting usually means that he has a hand that is too strong to check-call, but not strong enough to check-raise...on this board and his range hands like QhXh might fall into this category...for example Qh9h or Qh8h
If it's true then my outs exclude Kh and 8h and I only have 6 outs...so my hand is not good enough to call but not weak enough to fold...I raise OTF hoping to induce check OTT from BB so that I can see both of the turn and the river cards...

turn : ok, my plan failed, so I fold.

Any comments on the line?

if your assumptions about his range are correct (which they arent) raising flop is terrible when you have zero fold equity. flat flop and go from there.

as played turn fold is std.

1) why exactly aren't my assumptions correct?
2) not sure why raise is terrible. I can credibly rep 22, TT, QQ here and these hands raise OTF for protection. if he does not complete flush/straight OTT then he might check and I can check back to see the turn card. what's so terrible in this plan?

I like a call better than a flop raise. I just don’t think we have that much fold equity in this spot. With that said, raising can’t be that bad. But I think we should be prepared to barrel down on certain board textures. If we do raise, we should go larger to like 10-11 BBs.

As played yeah I guess fold turn.

To clarify - raising OTF is like a blocking bet that aims to prevent V to bet OTT It does not even need the fold equity. I am not sure if it's a good idea though..Blocking bets were used a lot over the past decade, but I don't see a lot of people doing that nowadays..
I don't like a call OTF because very often V bets OTT and we fold...Blocking bet at least might help to see the turn and river cards and complete oesd..Having said that, I realize that a call is a good stable choice that does not bloat the pot.

worked really well.

the range you assigned isn’t correct because you made a lot of assumptions that are based on a gut feeling. that approach is wrong, the less info/sample size you have on someone the wider his range will be in certain spots. his leading range includes some stronger value hands as well as some draw combos. narrowing it down to two combos is going to lead to a lot of errors going forward.

Making a -EV decision on the flop to avoid a potential -EV decision on future streets is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. If we don’t think we have fled wquity on the flop, we shouldn’t raise.

We should still have the implied odds to be able to call a lot of turns and we can always bluff raise the turn if we feel it’s a good spot to do so.

Love that comparison. thanks.

Okay, I hear you. But what range do you think V donk bets here?