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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
what's really tilting me is we're like 20 posts deep and we still don't know how many players are seated at the freaking table, unless im missing something?
yeah we dont know, i pressumed 7-9 so I've put 8 in calc . 1 up and down wont change it much, maybe for 0.05 or less, and us being lowest or 2nd lowest stack is realistic and again it won't change calc too much.
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Originally Posted by cizixap
using HRC calculations without knowing stack sizes of all the players at the table is preposterous.
talking about hrc calculations while not being aware how it works and that with 8bb stack and icm not such big of an factor it won't change drasticly either way is preposterous. stop needling me son, i hope we worked out what we had.
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if players behind are calling our shove tigther than nash, which is reality ( i wasn't changing their calling nash ranges ), that makes our shove more profitable.
if opener is opening somewhat tighter obv edge with ATs is lil bit smaller but not by much and it's still a jam. again if we think we have any FE which you wont have vs any player that is close to decent then this is printing.
poker is a game of incomplete information. we can argue if he's opening 10 12 or 16 but if he's opening 10% ATs is still a +. i've put more because of in live tournaments any notnit type of player usually openes somewhat wider and we can see random hand like A8o / KTo or smt like that pretty often.
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and again about 0.3bb being small edge, edge is related to the stacksize. you won't take 0.3bb with your 25bb stack in a soft field, but with 8bb your hands are tied since 1)blinds might change 2)WINTER IS COMMING ( blinds ) and they'll eat like 1/4+ of our stack.