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playing against a preflop lag playing against a preflop lag

06-05-2018 , 08:19 AM
150/300/30 14000 effective stacks. 10 handed live $500 MTT midstages not near money.

folds to MP who limps, passive will likely call a raise if not too big.
Button (19000) raises 1100.He is quite aggressive raise first in of 80% from MP to button, plays well/carefully post flop.
I have AJs on sb which I folded, as I did not like this probably 4 way with BB calling.
If I push I get called by KK+, they might fold AK,QQ.
3bet to say 3500 ? the btn has called several 3bets.

A) So what should I have done? fold, call, 3bet, push allin. I think push is +EV, and is simple.
B) I have position on this guy. What range should I in position 3bet his RFIs ?
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06-05-2018 , 12:34 PM
you don't have position on anyone in the SB

I don't think anyone folds QQ or AK

Why wouldn't you like a suited AJ in a 4 way pot?
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06-05-2018 , 02:01 PM
OK to clarify: I am referring in my B query to the times I have the button,or cutoff or hijack. I have position then.
Calling AJ 4w I fear getting setmined or 2 pair mined, whereas a 3bet at least gets it HU.

Last edited by user101; 06-05-2018 at 02:08 PM.
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06-15-2018 , 03:26 AM
3650/decide vs a 4bet...prob call b/c folding is not fun+we're sooted+can reenter etc.

Can also cold-call the iso b/c we're sooted/at the bottom of our cold-3bet value range...but bad relative pos post since ur gonna get squeezed by a cbet with the fish in there too.
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06-15-2018 , 05:13 AM
Vs weaker oppos (limper), even oop, you can def cold call the 3b and play post. No need to get spasi through a 4bet with a hand that doesnt play well post in a 4b pot oop. Knowing that you ll have to fold vs a 5b and sitting on 46biggs, no need to get cute, just play low variance, flat and re evaluate post imho. Not sure abt Vilain 3bet range to less than 3x the bb. Seems pretty fishy to me. Moreso a connected hand that has decent post flop strentgh, doubt he wouldnt iso for a much bigger amount with real value hands. Looks like he s willing to iso ip the weak pre limper.
PS: how can u assume that anyone might fold Ak QQ? Dont get it

Last edited by swissodds; 06-15-2018 at 05:16 AM. Reason: i has no good Enfglish
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06-15-2018 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by erc007
3650/decide vs a 4bet...prob call b/c folding is not fun+we're sooted+can reenter etc.

Can also cold-call the iso b/c we're sooted/at the bottom of our cold-3bet value range...but bad relative pos post since ur gonna get squeezed by a cbet with the fish in there too.
Pretty much this.

I would definitely be weighed towards a 3bet for the aforementioned reasons (playing post can suck because squeeze). Would prob 3bet/fold tho, can't see V shoving much worse imho. If he flats our hand plays fine post.
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