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11-18-2017 , 10:21 AM
Toward the middle of the day I was moved to a tough table with an aggressive player directly to my right. I had 3 different AK 3 bets against the same player, either from my button or the small blind. The first and 3d got through, but the 2d one was 4 bet. I flatted and folded to a rags flop.

Villain is aggressive, hero hopes to play TAG, but is probably viewed more as weak tight.

After several moves, we met again. I opened JJ to 5500 (2400BB) with about 77K behind. He 3 bet to 17.2 from the SB, I called. He had about 250K behind.

Flop was Q66 Rainbow. He continued for 12K, I called.
Turn was an offsuit 4, we both checked.
River was a 2. He put me in for about 48K. Your action?
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11-18-2017 , 05:44 PM
What position were you in? Seems like a good spot to rip it in pre. Folding river.
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11-18-2017 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortfuse
What position were you in? Seems like a good spot to rip it in pre. Folding river.
I opened cutoff.
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11-18-2017 , 07:34 PM
Then definitely shoving pre.
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11-19-2017 , 11:15 AM
EZ all in pre
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11-19-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 3for3poker
I opened cutoff.
This doesn't make sense. If villain is directly to your right and in the SB then you would have to be BB. If he is two to your right then you would be UTG. Unless there were only 4 players at the table where you are both UTG and CO... Or maybe he was on your left?

It matters because his 3 bet from the SB is much stronger if your open is UTG than if it is from the CO or BTN.

I don't mind the call pre-flop if you are opening UTG. From the CO its OK but against an overly aggressive player you make your life a bit easier if you jam pre because his 3-bet can be light (AT, KQ, 77, etc.) and there are a lot of flops that will look scary to JJ.

As played its a tough spot on the river. Given your image I would be inclined to call because villain's bet is somewhat polarized between KQ+/QQ+ and a bluff (Ax) and you only have to be ahead 30% of the time. But I do think its close because there is some % of time that he won't bluff the river with AK and a small % he bets with 77-TT. He doesn't know that you folded AK that other hand.
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11-19-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rick
This doesn't make sense. If villain is directly to your right and in the SB then you would have to be BB. If he is two to your right then you would be UTG. Unless there were only 4 players at the table where you are both UTG and CO... Or maybe he was on your left?

It matters because his 3 bet from the SB is much stronger if your open is UTG than if it is from the CO or BTN.

I don't mind the call pre-flop if you are opening UTG. From the CO its OK but against an overly aggressive player you make your life a bit easier if you jam pre because his 3-bet can be light (AT, KQ, 77, etc.) and there are a lot of flops that will look scary to JJ.

As played its a tough spot on the river. Given your image I would be inclined to call because villain's bet is somewhat polarized between KQ+/QQ+ and a bluff (Ax) and you only have to be ahead 30% of the time. But I do think its close because there is some % of time that he won't bluff the river with AK and a small % he bets with 77-TT. He doesn't know that you folded AK that other hand.
You missed the 'after several moves'. We had both changed tables with different relative positions.

Thanks for the in depth analysis. True, it makes my life easier to shove. I just thought the shove was too big, and I did have position. Not that it necessarily helped, because I ended in a tough spot anyway.
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11-19-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 3for3poker
You missed the 'after several moves'. We had both changed tables with different relative positions.

Thanks for the in depth analysis. True, it makes my life easier to shove. I just thought the shove was too big, and I did have position. Not that it necessarily helped, because I ended in a tough spot anyway.
LOL. I took the "after several moves" to mean that after he made several more moves to take other players chips you "met again" in another hand.
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11-20-2017 , 11:50 AM
This is an all-in preflop.

Given the way the hand played out, this is a call for me.
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11-20-2017 , 01:24 PM
I think AIPF can be correct depending on the table dynamics. In this case, it is probably the best option given the 3! and 4! action in prior hands.

However, once a Q66 flop hits, you need to decide there if you are going with the hand or not. With his flop bet there is ~50K in the middle and you have $50K behind. I think you shove or fold there if you didn't shove pre.
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11-21-2017 , 12:57 AM
Thanks for the answers. I did sigh call, and Villain turned over AA. He used the chips pretty well, it seems, he came in 4th in the event.
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06-29-2023 , 11:56 AM
This thread is quite old, but I thought the hand was against Ali I.

My check of the event was that it was...
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