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11-23-2013 , 11:11 PM
3b/c is certainly worst.

Slightly deeper like 30bb+ I`d def love flatting more but guess with these positions flat-call won`t look very strong yet. Limper won`t hesitate much. So yeah flat > shove but shoving with your stack isn`t bad.
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11-29-2013 , 08:54 PM
Plo hand, K8 and KK all played fine. KK being the most interesting, but I believe flatting turns ur hand pretty face up, shoving keeps ur range that little bit wider
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12-04-2013 , 05:52 AM
FT of 8r. Villain is SN, first time we've played together. Up to this hand he was opening lots of hands pre but nothing to showdown. OR and btn are good LAG regs fwiw.

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T8.000/T16.000
Buy-in: $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
6 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T588.571)
MP - Hero (T966.024)
CO - CO (T553.459)
BTN - BTN (T1.222.704)
SB - SB (T606.742)
BB - BB (T1.191.000)

Preflop: (T33.600, 6 players) Hero is MP with 9 9
UTG raises to T32.780, Hero calls T32.780, 1 fold, BTN calls T32.780, 1 fold, BB calls T16.780

Flop: J 2 3 (T148.720, 4 players)
BB bets T73.380, 1 fold, Hero folds

Standard?
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12-04-2013 , 05:57 AM
seems fine
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12-04-2013 , 09:35 PM
Hey guys,

villain was running 26/15/69 over small sample size and seemed fishy.

Appreciate short feedback.

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T60/T120
Buy-in: $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - Hero (T5.690)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T2.239)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 (T9.124)
MP - MP (T655)
MP2 - MP2 (T6.586)
CO - CO (T2.835)
BTN - BTN (T1.570)
SB - SB (T3.185)
BB - BB (T2.860)

Preflop: (T315, 9 players) Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to T265, 7 folds, BB calls T145

Flop: 4 7 8 (T725, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets T275, BB calls T275

Turn: 6 (T1.275, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: Q (T1.275, 2 players)
BB bets T1.320, 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T1.320 returned to BB

Total Pot: T1.275

BB wins T1.275
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12-05-2013 , 10:05 PM
Live pendleton $500 main

in the money 25 left 36 paid

folds to me on the button 78cc and i have ~30bb.
SB has ~8bb and BB has 11bb.

shoving fine?



Another hand around the same level i minopen KJhh from the hijack with a 25bb stack.
Everybody except the sb had 20-40bb and the sb has 9bb. The sb is a fairly tighter player....should i be getting away from his 3bet cram?
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12-06-2013 , 05:02 AM
shoving is fine with 78s; SB has to be really tight to fold the KJhh; you need 35% equity and have 34% vs 99+/AJs+/AQ+ which is about as tight as he could be.
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12-06-2013 , 07:05 AM
should i take other things into consideration other than straight chipEV? Say he was that tight (he wasn't) and it was that close...and i feel i had an edge on the table/field..at what point is it more valuable to hold on to my 23-24bb stack and fold rather than risk going to pushbot zone...maybe i should not even open if im not willing to stack off vs shorty..
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12-06-2013 , 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by card core
Hey guys,

villain was running 26/15/69 over small sample size and seemed fishy.

Appreciate short feedback.

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T60/T120
Buy-in: $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - Hero (T5.690)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T2.239)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 (T9.124)
MP - MP (T655)
MP2 - MP2 (T6.586)
CO - CO (T2.835)
BTN - BTN (T1.570)
SB - SB (T3.185)
BB - BB (T2.860)

Preflop: (T315, 9 players) Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to T265, 7 folds, BB calls T145

Flop: 4 7 8 (T725, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets T275, BB calls T275

Turn: 6 (T1.275, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: Q (T1.275, 2 players)
BB bets T1.320, 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T1.320 returned to BB

Total Pot: T1.275

BB wins T1.275
I think you bet too small on the flop, you made it so cheap he'd call with just about anything and it looks like you have nothing. I'd make it 500-600 when heads up like this. I'd follow up the turn with a healthy 1/2 to 3/4 pot bet as well when checked to. You're likely still ahead and your hand can still improve. Villain might have folded already or just checked the river but the way you played it he could easily have made that bet on the river to steal your pot with air. If you take my line, I think you're ahead verses a fishy player most of the time and if he then shoves what little left he has on the river that's where it gets sticky though you still might be ahead. You'll still have chips to play either if you call or fold.
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12-07-2013 , 04:15 PM
78s - yes

KJs - no (dnt fld )
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12-07-2013 , 04:17 PM
LOL hand. teh big 22.

Villain is micro-stakes newbie on PS.
Was active on small sample. 1st time he 3bets.
We hold 2.5x average stack deep in tourney.

PokerStars - $20+$2|400/800 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG+1): 48,141
UTG+2: 54,425 (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 9,297
MP+1: 20,010
CO: 12,237
BTN: 18,750
SB: 5,691
BB: 25,105
UTG: 33,796

9 players post ante of 100, SB posts SB 400, BB posts BB 800

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,100) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to 1,688, UTG+2 raises to 54,325 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero...

calling range?
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12-07-2013 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by card core
Hey guys,

villain was running 26/15/69 over small sample size and seemed fishy.

Appreciate short feedback.

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T60/T120
Buy-in: $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - Hero (T5.690)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T2.239)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 (T9.124)
MP - MP (T655)
MP2 - MP2 (T6.586)
CO - CO (T2.835)
BTN - BTN (T1.570)
SB - SB (T3.185)
BB - BB (T2.860)

Preflop: (T315, 9 players) Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to T265, 7 folds, BB calls T145

Flop: 4 7 8 (T725, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets T275, BB calls T275

Turn: 6 (T1.275, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: Q (T1.275, 2 players)
BB bets T1.320, 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T1.320 returned to BB

Total Pot: T1.275

BB wins T1.275
Bet around 50% pot otf perhaps and cbet fold ott.

As played if I were to hero call I might do it here - dnt mind your fld I guess.
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12-07-2013 , 11:16 PM
Big $27.50 V is 13/0 over 16 hands. Is a jam fine here?


    Poker Stars, $25 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 30 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21381821

    MP1: 3,142 (12.6 bb)
    MP2: 5,685 (22.7 bb)
    MP3: 7,130 (28.5 bb)
    CO: 8,648 (34.6 bb)
    BTN: 9,897 (39.6 bb)
    Hero (SB): 5,772 (23.1 bb)
    BB: 2,395 (9.6 bb)
    UTG+1: 11,545 (46.2 bb)
    UTG+2: 4,095 (16.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A T
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 250, 5 folds, Hero raises to 5,742 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: 1,020 pot
    Hero mucked A T and lost (-280 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-280 net)
    UTG+2 mucked and lost (-280 net)



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    12-08-2013 , 06:16 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dogarse
    Big $27.50 V is 13/0 over 16 hands. Is a jam fine here?


      Poker Stars, $25 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 30 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21381821

      MP1: 3,142 (12.6 bb)
      MP2: 5,685 (22.7 bb)
      MP3: 7,130 (28.5 bb)
      CO: 8,648 (34.6 bb)
      BTN: 9,897 (39.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): 5,772 (23.1 bb)
      BB: 2,395 (9.6 bb)
      UTG+1: 11,545 (46.2 bb)
      UTG+2: 4,095 (16.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A T
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 250, 5 folds, Hero raises to 5,742 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Results: 1,020 pot
      Hero mucked A T and lost (-280 net)
      BB mucked and lost (-280 net)
      UTG+2 mucked and lost (-280 net)



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      Nice hand.
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      12-08-2013 , 06:18 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by WashUrHandsPlz
      LOL hand. teh big 22.

      Villain is micro-stakes newbie on PS.
      Was active on small sample. 1st time he 3bets.
      We hold 2.5x average stack deep in tourney.

      PokerStars - $20+$2|400/800 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (UTG+1): 48,141
      UTG+2: 54,425 (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
      MP: 9,297
      MP+1: 20,010
      CO: 12,237
      BTN: 18,750
      SB: 5,691
      BB: 25,105
      UTG: 33,796

      9 players post ante of 100, SB posts SB 400, BB posts BB 800

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2,100) Hero has J J

      fold, Hero raises to 1,688, UTG+2 raises to 54,325 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero...

      calling range?
      this happened to me recently and the opponent had QQ. Maybe avoid this spot though given your equity in tournament?
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      12-08-2013 , 05:58 PM
      I dont know what can I do to reach late phase of tournaments...Last two I played for 4 hours both and busted with AK to K10 and AK to KJ, where I was 74% favorite before flop...And tonight after 3 hours busted with KK against AJ, where I was 71% favorite pre flop...And in same time I see russian winning 2 showing with 26o and 25o ...
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      12-08-2013 , 06:12 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by ApolonMNE
      I dont know what can I do to reach late phase of tournaments...Last two I played for 4 hours both and busted with AK to K10 and AK to KJ, where I was 74% favorite before flop...And tonight after 3 hours busted with KK against AJ, where I was 71% favorite pre flop...And in same time I see russian winning 2 showing with 26o and 25o ...
      You just have to be focused on making right decisions and not results over short-term. Study to make sure what you think are right decisions are in fact so.
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      12-08-2013 , 07:48 PM
      Is this played very badly? I feel it is.
      The opponent was a random and did weird stuff on the flop. I had no idea what to do.



        Poker Stars, $200 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21389121

        BB: 22,232 (55.6 bb)
        UTG+1: 52,516 (131.3 bb)
        UTG+2: 52,048 (130.1 bb)
        MP1: 8,386 (21 bb)
        MP2: 26,080 (65.2 bb)
        MP3: 15,739 (39.3 bb)
        CO: 5,857 (14.6 bb)
        Hero (BTN): 17,663 (44.2 bb)
        SB: 20,000 (50 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
        UTG+1 raises to 800, 3 folds, MP3 calls 800, CO folds, Hero calls 800, SB folds, BB calls 400

        Flop: (3,760) 7 A 3 (4 players)
        BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets 800, Hero raises to 2,016, 2 folds, MP3 raises to 3,232, Hero calls 1,216

        Turn: (10,224) 2 (2 players)
        MP3 bets 5,200, Hero raises to 13,591 and is all-in, MP3 calls 6,467 and is all-in

        River: (33,558) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: 33,558 pot
        Final Board: 7 A 3 2 6
        MP3 showed 7 7 and won 33,558 (17,819 net)
        Hero showed J A and lost (-15,739 net)



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        12-08-2013 , 08:01 PM
        Yeah, you can just snap fold to the reraise on the flop.
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        12-09-2013 , 02:41 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by ApolonMNE
        I dont know what can I do to reach late phase of tournaments...Last two I played for 4 hours both and busted with AK to K10 and AK to KJ, where I was 74% favorite before flop...And tonight after 3 hours busted with KK against AJ, where I was 71% favorite pre flop...And in same time I see russian winning 2 showing with 26o and 25o ...
        Unfortunately, this bad things continue to happen...

        Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (BB): 5,934 (49.5 bb)
        UTG+1: 2,365 (19.7 bb)
        UTG+2: 1,890 (15.8 bb)
        MP1: 2,187 (18.2 bb)
        MP2: 2,520 (21 bb)
        MP3: 3,550 (29.6 bb)
        CO: 6,165 (51.4 bb)
        BTN: 2,175 (18.1 bb)
        SB: 4,820 (40.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
        2 folds, MP1 raises to 2,172 and is all-in, 5 folds, Hero calls 2,052

        Flop: (4,539) J 7 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: (4,539) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (4,539) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Results: 4,539 pot
        Final Board: J 7 5 A T
        Hero showed K K and lost (-2,187 net)
        MP1 showed Q K and won 4,539 (2,352 net)

        Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (MP2): 2,462 (16.4 bb)
        MP3: 3,000 (20 bb)
        CO: 5,680 (37.9 bb)
        BTN: 4,409 (29.4 bb)
        SB: 2,685 (17.9 bb)
        BB: 3,480 (23.2 bb)
        UTG+1: 6,095 (40.6 bb)
        UTG+2: 2,105 (14 bb)
        MP1: 4,690 (31.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T T
        UTG+1 raises to 450, 2 folds, Hero calls 450, 3 folds, SB calls 375, BB folds

        Flop: (1,680) Q T 5 (3 players)
        SB checks, UTG+1 bets 2,400, Hero calls 1,992 and is all-in, SB folds

        Turn: (5,664) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (5,664) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Results: 5,664 pot
        Final Board: Q T 5 7 9
        Hero showed T T and lost (-2,462 net)
        SB mucked and lost (-470 net)
        UTG+1 showed A A and won 5,664 (3,202 net)
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        12-09-2013 , 03:38 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by ApolonMNE
        Unfortunately, this bad things continue to happen...

        Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (BB): 5,934 (49.5 bb)
        UTG+1: 2,365 (19.7 bb)
        UTG+2: 1,890 (15.8 bb)
        MP1: 2,187 (18.2 bb)
        MP2: 2,520 (21 bb)
        MP3: 3,550 (29.6 bb)
        CO: 6,165 (51.4 bb)
        BTN: 2,175 (18.1 bb)
        SB: 4,820 (40.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
        2 folds, MP1 raises to 2,172 and is all-in, 5 folds, Hero calls 2,052

        Flop: (4,539) J 7 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: (4,539) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (4,539) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Results: 4,539 pot
        Final Board: J 7 5 A T
        Hero showed K K and lost (-2,187 net)
        MP1 showed Q K and won 4,539 (2,352 net)

        Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (MP2): 2,462 (16.4 bb)
        MP3: 3,000 (20 bb)
        CO: 5,680 (37.9 bb)
        BTN: 4,409 (29.4 bb)
        SB: 2,685 (17.9 bb)
        BB: 3,480 (23.2 bb)
        UTG+1: 6,095 (40.6 bb)
        UTG+2: 2,105 (14 bb)
        MP1: 4,690 (31.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T T
        UTG+1 raises to 450, 2 folds, Hero calls 450, 3 folds, SB calls 375, BB folds

        Flop: (1,680) Q T 5 (3 players)
        SB checks, UTG+1 bets 2,400, Hero calls 1,992 and is all-in, SB folds

        Turn: (5,664) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (5,664) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Results: 5,664 pot
        Final Board: Q T 5 7 9
        Hero showed T T and lost (-2,462 net)
        SB mucked and lost (-470 net)
        UTG+1 showed A A and won 5,664 (3,202 net)
        Hand #2. You should have shoved preflop unless guy is mega mega tight. Just a cooler. The set followed by flush is irrelevant.
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        12-09-2013 , 04:42 PM
        Thanks for reply...I didnt shove pre flop cause I was moved to that table maybe 3 hands ago and didnt have reads about that vilain.
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        12-09-2013 , 05:25 PM
        first time converting, hopefully I don't **** this up. BIIIIKRAM PLS. I hate this spot so much. no info on the random euro, only played an orbit with him but he seems pretty aggro.

        Poker Stars $40+$4 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

        MP2: t3000 100 BBs
        CO: t2985 99.50 BBs
        BTN: t2865 95.50 BBs
        Hero (SB): t3015 100.50 BBs
        BB: t4305 143.50 BBs
        UTG: t3000 100 BBs
        UTG+1: t1830 61 BBs
        UTG+2: t3000 100 BBs
        MP1: t3000 100 BBs

        Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is SB with A K
        1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t90, 2 folds, MP2 calls t90, 2 folds, Hero raises to t199, 2 folds, MP2 calls t109

        Flop: (t518) 6 5 2 (2 players)
        Hero bets t222, MP2 calls t222

        Turn: (t962) T (2 players)
        Hero bets t444, MP2 calls t444

        River: (t1850) Q (2 players)
        Hero checks, MP2 bets t2135 all in, Hero folds
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        12-09-2013 , 07:59 PM
        Nugo- Your 3-bet sizing is small OOP. I would go bigger; closer to 3x. The hand will set itself up where you can easily get three bets in before the river and set up a nice pot-sized shove.

        You can rep an overpair pretty well (his initial opening raise was from UTG+1) if you triple-barrel and this runout was definitely significantly above average for you to do that. I would rather do that or not c-bet at all than stop at 1 or 2 barrels against an aggro opponent when we're OOP.
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        12-11-2013 , 11:31 AM
        I'm not really sure what's going on or what to make of this hand. I mean I think I played can anyone break down action?


        I guesse maybe he feels like he can never fold now that he did that on the flop. Anyone do anything extremely differently? 2.5kg, vs winning player over small sample. he seemed somewhat positionally aware so I thought I can flat him here in position a lot and be profitable post by making him fold in some spots and inducing/potcontrolling others. Also didn't want to 3bet from the button and it's too strong to fold vs his stealing range here I think? Not wanting to 3bet, was more b/c I think it just ramps up his aggression and it probably looks like im 3betting pretty wide since ive already done it a few times from the button at this tble. so I don't want to end up folding to a 4bet I enduced.

        I also logic in my head was. if he does flat idk, like I can take it away a lot more or a lot of suited connected type boards, because they would smash what looks like my calling range, like float wet boards and represent draws on later streets type stuff, or raise the flop on certain textures when he c bets. like so better aces I can fold out postflop that will 4bet me pre. and I keep in worse aces by flatting and im ahead of kq type stuff?



          IPoker, $10 Buy-in (60/120 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          UTG+2: 3,500 (29.2 bb)
          MP1: 13,253 (110.4 bb)
          MP2: 2,100 (17.5 bb)
          MP3: 1,599 (13.3 bb)
          CO: 2,530 (21.1 bb)
          Hero (BTN): 8,325 (69.4 bb)
          SB: 3,118 (26 bb)
          BB: 4,720 (39.3 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 A
          4 folds, CO raises to 360, Hero calls 360, 2 folds

          Flop: (900) J 7 J (2 players)
          CO checks, Hero bets 360, CO raises to 1,200, Hero raises to 4,500, CO calls 970 and is all-in

          Turn: (5,240) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          River: (5,240) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: 5,240 pot
          Final Board: J 7 J 6 5
          CO showed A 3 and won 5,240 (2,710 net)
          Hero mucked 9 A and lost (-2,530 net)




          any thoughts aprecciated on anything on any street.

          of note is that .. with regard to the turn. Theres a strong probability I may have induced him. I expected him to c-bet a significant portion of his range on this kind of a board, especially out of position. So I took a really long time before I came to the decision to do what I did. So the small sizing combined with me timing down could have had some kind of affect on his check/raise frequency ?

          and his timing on the check/raise the flop was not snap , but it was like maybe1.5 seconds so pretty quick relative to his other decisions. But it just seems like such an absurd line for him to take with a strong hand idk.

          Last edited by ozmosis313; 12-11-2013 at 11:59 AM.
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