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13.5 KO ft.
Chipleader is good small stakes reg on a lag side, rest of field is pretty soft.

SB - 12/12 in 42 hands.
BB - 22/17/10 in 368 hands with 12% 4bet [3/26].

I was active. No history with CL in this tourney.
He saw me opening T9s from CO 1 or 2 orbits ago.

PokerStars - $10+$2.50+$1|6000/12000 Ante 1500 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): 347,215.00
BTN: 296,402.00
SB: 134,788.00
BB: 1,089,333.00
UTG: 356,814.00
MP: 346,448.00

Hero posts ante 1,500.00, BTN posts ante 1,500.00, SB posts ante 1,500.00, BB posts ante 1,500.00, UTG posts ante 1,500.00, MP posts ante 1,500.00, SB posts SB 6,000.00, BB posts BB 12,000.00

Pre Flop: (27000.00) Hero has K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 24,000.00, fold, SB raises to 133,288.00 and is all-in, BB raises to 810,000.00, Hero calls 321,715.00 and is all-in

Thoughts -- is it ok or ICM spew in a soft field?

1.5/1.1/830/620/440/350

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09-27-2013 , 06:13 PM

#252

shichibukai

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09-27-2013 , 11:21 PM

#253

johall111

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im happy w gii here but icm calc that ish and report back so i can learn

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09-27-2013 , 11:23 PM

#254

V-Delaney

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Yes calling

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09-29-2013 , 12:34 PM

#255

WashUrHandsPlz

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$215 wcoop.
Villain is fish. was active in 10 hands.
Last hand he dbl barrelled A-high board with 2 of same suit and I folded turn.

PokerStars - $200+$15|50/100 Ante 10 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 12,815.00
SB: 9,144.00
BB: 5,271.00
UTG: 11,550.00
UTG+1: 10,346.00
MP: 8,491.00
MP+1: 12,030.00
Hero (CO): 10,371.00

BTN posts ante 10.00, SB posts ante 10.00, BB posts ante 10.00, UTG posts ante 10.00, UTG+1 posts ante 10.00, MP posts ante 10.00, MP+1 posts ante 10.00, Hero posts ante 10.00, SB posts SB 50.00, BB posts BB 100.00

Pre Flop: (230.00) Hero has T

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 100.00, Hero raises to 300.00, fold, fold, BB calls 200.00, MP+1 calls 200.00

Flop: (1030.00, 3 players) 6

BB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets 511.00, fold, MP+1 calls 511.00

Turn: (2052.00, 2 players) 8

MP+1 checks, Hero bets 1,255.00, MP+1 calls 1,255.00

River: (4562.00, 2 players) 9

MP+1 checks, Hero bets 3,155.00, MP+1 raises to 6,500.00, Hero...

thoughts on line, sizings, decision.

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09-29-2013 , 06:06 PM

#256

shichibukai

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call and split a lot

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09-30-2013 , 07:05 PM

#257

WashUrHandsPlz

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Originally Posted by shichibukai

call and split a lot

yeah "splitted" w JsTs.
seems like he saved me some chips.

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10-01-2013 , 09:15 AM

#258

oldsilver

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this hand similar to the other recent thread with V c/c c/c c/jam, but slightly different pre dynamic makes this a little more transparent.

i'm never thinking chop on that river c/r. i'm thinking puke. everything that you beat would c/r or lead turn. now you're up against a mountain of multis that got there. you have to b/decide against a fish, but unless the guy is super out of line prior to this hand, b/f is viable.

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10-04-2013 , 11:01 PM

#259

MatteoBounce

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can we call 5's 42bb eff strictly for set value vs a reg/ish 21/15 open?

Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19811891

MP1: 11,410 (22.8 bb)
Hero (MP2): 31,124 (62.2 bb)
MP3: 40,938 (81.9 bb)
CO: 3,654 (7.3 bb)
BTN: 31,956 (63.9 bb)
SB: 27,498 (55 bb)
BB: 21,558 (43.1 bb)
UTG+1: 21,083 (42.2 bb)
UTG+2: 15,409 (30.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5

UTG+1 raises to 1,250, 8 folds

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10-05-2013 , 12:21 AM

#260

tboneparte

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yes. better from ep to encourage flats from behind + looks kinda strong if we get HU, can be worse with perceptive villains behind.

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10-07-2013 , 09:39 AM

#261

Mookie88

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My initial plan was to obviously bet/call the bb.. does this ever change when CO floats? new table and readless but he seems good. Never folding eh

Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19833971

SB: 40,877 (16.4 bb)
BB: 28,265 (11.3 bb)
UTG+1: 73,922 (29.6 bb)
UTG+2: 208,986 (83.6 bb)
MP1: 68,994 (27.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): 70,834 (28.3 bb)
MP3: 28,942 (11.6 bb)
CO: 110,060 (44 bb)
BTN: 42,331 (16.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q

3 folds, Hero raises to 5,000, MP3 folds, CO calls 5,000, 2 folds, BB calls 2,500

Flop: (18,500) T

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 7,895, CO calls 7,895, BB raises to 23,015 and is all-in, Hero raises to 56,815 and is all-in

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10-07-2013 , 09:43 AM

#262

Mookie88

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What's a rough bottom of our range here? Should we be tighter than Nash or

Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19835111

BB: 394,387 (65.7 bb)
UTG+2: 155,659 (25.9 bb)
MP1: 138,677 (23.1 bb)
MP2: 82,343 (13.7 bb)
MP3: 88,148 (14.7 bb)
CO: 128,722 (21.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): 56,589 (9.4 bb)
SB: 326,771 (54.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with ::
5 folds, Hero raises to 55,989 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls 49,989

Flop: (119,778) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (119,778) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (119,778) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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10-07-2013 , 09:59 AM

#263

tboneparte

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first one is fine, second I don't have an exact range but almost any 2 readless, prob 90% or something.

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10-07-2013 , 10:06 AM

#264

Mookie88

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q3s is std?

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10-07-2013 , 11:22 AM

#265

tboneparte

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10-07-2013 , 11:25 AM

#266

mashxx

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tbone you're nuts

mookie: never be tighter than nash, you can be slightly wider against tight calling ranges, but not 90%

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10-07-2013 , 11:46 AM

#267

tboneparte

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Alright well I shove way light here, prob like 43s+ J2s+ J5o+ Qx+ T7o+ or something. Haven't played with Nash ever really, and am outta practice with stove so 90% was just an approximation/exaggeration I guess.

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10-07-2013 , 08:22 PM

#268

Jesusjapiee

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Party, $10 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19840541

UTG+1: 73,061 (60.9 bb)
SB: 30,840 (25.7 bb)
UTG+2: 22,317 (18.6 bb)
CO: 33,806 (28.2 bb)
UTG: 26,442 (22 bb)
MP3: 31,526 (26.3 bb)
MP2: 38,395 (32 bb)
BB: 63,874 (53.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): 32,518 (27.1 bb)
MP1: 26,690 (22.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9

UTG raises to 2,400, 2 folds, MP1 calls 2,400, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to 31,401 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero

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11r
Utg is unknown, shover is 14/12/5, squeeze 2%. 680 hands. Not itm yet iirc

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10-07-2013 , 08:27 PM

#269

Jesusjapiee

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Party, $10 Buy-in (750/1,500 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19840561

UTG+2: 49,395 (32.9 bb)
MP2: 25,936 (17.3 bb)
MP1: 11,106 (7.4 bb)
BTN: 12,892 (8.6 bb)
UTG+1: 20,979 (14 bb)
Hero (BB): 20,574 (13.7 bb)
MP3: 48,023 (32 bb)
SB: 72,260 (48.2 bb)
CO: 63,575 (42.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

5 folds, CO raises to 3,000, BTN folds, SB raises to 7,425, 2 folds

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26 left, 25 pay. opener is stealing 38%, 3bettor is unknown but in 34 hands he has been 3betting a couple times.

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10-07-2013 , 08:45 PM

#270

Jesusjapiee

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Party, $5.50 Buy-in (750/1,500 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19840611

MP1: 27,671 (18.4 bb)
UTG+1: 48,324 (32.2 bb)
Hero (CO): 32,389 (21.6 bb)
SB: 6,828 (4.6 bb)
MP3: 48,444 (32.3 bb)
BTN: 64,474 (43 bb)
BB: 29,279 (19.5 bb)
MP2: 39,665 (26.4 bb)
UTG+2: 43,178 (28.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5

3 folds, MP2 raises to 3,000,

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6r
opener is 14/12, 14 pfr from mp, fold to pf 3bet after raise is 67 in mp

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10-07-2013 , 09:01 PM

#271

Mookie88

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#1 really not sure, leaning towards a fold but feels nitty. Maybe 99 would be a good bottom here.

#2 Another awkward spot, even though sb is easily capable of being light, and likely is.. we have no FE on him and by folding we maintain fold equity/cash

#3 I'm all in

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10-08-2013 , 06:54 AM

#272

Jesusjapiee

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In nr 2 I feel like aqo is a snap shove, but is there that much difference in this spot between aqo and ajo?

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10-08-2013 , 02:00 PM

#273

tboneparte

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First 2 are nice bottoms me thinks. 3 is fine, little wider prob too.

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10-08-2013 , 02:04 PM

#274

Jesusjapiee

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Yeah positions are weird, the mp2 and me in the co are correct though and it gets folded to me.

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10-09-2013 , 10:12 AM

#275

WashUrHandsPlz

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1 - an easy fold having a solid sample. would fold TT too.
2 - fold on a bubble. 99/Aq.

3 - might be unnecessary in soft field. marginally +ev.

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