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Old 09-04-2019, 03:04 AM   #701
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

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seems thin actually

UTG should be shoving 40% but I find too many players are way tighter than this. imo correct exploit is to assume half that range (top 20%) if player has waited almost the full orbit to shove, and assume the full 40% range 22+ Ax+ K2s+ K7o+ Q3s+ Q9o+ etc if the player has been active and recently lost a chunk.

blinds will generally fall somewhere into the 99+AQ+ to JJ+AK camp for reshove.

play around with those ranges, but I suspect AT+ 77+ is closer to where you'd want to be
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:53 PM   #702
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Does anyone have good resources for playing from the big blind short stacked against a sb limp?

I recently busted a $240+100 bounty shoving 7.4bb with K6o over a sb limp (to win 3bb), and I realized that I have no idea what the correct play is in this spot. With the bounty, I figured the sb would be calling super wide and this would let me realize my equity. Maybe I should've just checked and taken a flop?
-We were in the money but not to significant pay jumps (if people are interested for ICM).
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Old 10-19-2019, 10:01 PM   #703
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

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Does anyone have good resources for playing from the big blind short stacked against a sb limp?

I recently busted a $240+100 bounty shoving 7.4bb with K6o over a sb limp (to win 3bb), and I realized that I have no idea what the correct play is in this spot. With the bounty, I figured the sb would be calling super wide and this would let me realize my equity. Maybe I should've just checked and taken a flop?
-We were in the money but not to significant pay jumps (if people are interested for ICM).
When you have 7.4 BB, we'd expect the SB to be mostly shoving. It's such a far-from-equilibrium spot that I imagine a dearth of resources specific to this spot.
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:01 PM   #704
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

I had a similar one today where a seemingly fishy guy minraised my bb 10.5 BBs deep, I ripped it in with K9o and beat his 77. *Į\_(ツ)_/Į
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Old 10-27-2019, 12:10 PM   #705
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Does anyone have solid training for ranges. Ex: what type of range to defend from bb from say a cutoff/ button open when in a bb ante tournament?

2 hands Iíll post also.

350 mtt 100k gtn. I wanna say Iím 60bb deep. Ok tight mawg opens utg+2 to 2.5x(he had 40-50bbs I believe). I have 9-10o in bb and defend. Flop 9-10-k with 2 diamonds. Check check. Turn 10. I check, he bets 2.5k and I raise to 8k. River is 8d I believe and I lead full pot and he folds. Should we ever go like 1/2 pot or 2/3rd pot here or is sizing fine. I considered just jamming for like 1.5-2x pot but just felt pot was right. He folded so no idea what he had.

Ok hj who is solid tourny reg I have slight history playing with. Ok Iím 60bbs deep and heís 80bb maybe. I have already 3bet him light with A5o and show 5 in similar situation after he folds. He opens to 2.5x on hj. Iím in bb with A6dd and 3bet to 8.5x. He 4bets to 20.5x and I just fold. Is this fine spot to 3bet fold or should we just peel. Heís a good mtt player so I thought we should 3bet fold but maybe not. Prolly a peel but idk.
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Old 10-28-2019, 04:21 PM   #706
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

expanding on jkpoker's question:

18 left, 13 get paid. 3k/6k/6k blinds. UTG (150k) raises to 15k, MAWG (400k) calls in LMP. Folded to you in BB. what's your calling range?
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:05 PM   #707
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expanding on jkpoker's question:

18 left, 13 get paid. 3k/6k/6k blinds. UTG (150k) raises to 15k, MAWG (400k) calls in LMP. Folded to you in BB. what's your calling range?
Foninno, what is your stack size? Iím probably calling semi wide here from the bb. Iím thinking suited connectors/one gappers/ broadway/ pps. Itís a little awkard bc utg is short. Prolly going to include hands like k7s and the better portion of suited hands. Could make a case for folding j4s etc. Iím not an mtt expert thought so interested in what others say.
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Old 11-01-2019, 05:35 PM   #708
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Foninno, what is your stack size? Iím probably calling semi wide here from the bb. Iím thinking suited connectors/one gappers/ broadway/ pps. Itís a little awkard bc utg is short. Prolly going to include hands like k7s and the better portion of suited hands. Could make a case for folding j4s etc. Iím not an mtt expert thought so interested in what others say.
My stack size was 280k. The MAWG was chipleader, and the UTG raiser hadn't raised pre-flop in 3 hours I'd played with him (small sample, but still). Against a looser opener and another caller, I'm calling any two suited, broadways below AK, one-gappers 97o above. I'm not sure about Ace-rag, due to RIO. I actually had A4o here and felt that I needed to call getting 5:1 but that I could easily be drawing to a wheel or trips.
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Old 11-11-2019, 01:57 AM   #709
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Two hands I would like to get checked up:


45BB midstages live $600, nowhere near money, KhKc EP, raise 3BB, SB call, BB call. BB has been very loose but running over table by making hands. BB covers hero.

Flop Qh 9s 2h (10BB)

Sb check, BB check, Hero bet 3.5 BB, SB fold, BB calls (maybe could have sized up but whatever)

Turn Qh 9s 2h 4h (17BB)

Hero ???

Is it more advisable to check back here for pot control, or bet to continue to get value? I feel like I can see strong arguments for both, still holding a very strong hand, many worse hands can call, lots of equity even if behind, but on the other hand...

As played Hero bets 10BB, Vililan x/r all in (covers). Hero ??? (28.5 BB to win 93BB)

Feels awful facing that check jam even with the K of hearts.

Ok second hand super simple. $260 live satellite, 28 people left, 14 get package.

Hero 25BB AJo in the BB, LJ raises 2.5x, Hero calls. Lojack is 70+ year old tourney reg who I think is overall a decent player, covers hero but not by a ton.

Flop K J 7 rainbow (6BB).
Hero check, LJ bets 4BB, hero calls.
Turn brick (14BB).
Hero checks, LJ bets 9BB. Hero folds.,

Since it's a satellite I felt ok doing it, but not sure. Just in terms of chip EV seems pio/snowie thinks I should keep calling but just doesn't feel good to call off half my stack OOP with mid pair and another street of action to face. Am I being too nitty in these spots?

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Old 12-19-2019, 02:55 PM   #710
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Hand 2 looks fine.

Hand 1: Is villain loose-passive or loose-aggressive? Unfortunately, you block a lot of the combo draws (KhJx, KhTx) that he might semi-bluff with (if that's even something he's capable of..). With the turn heart, I'd view this as a 2-streets-of-value hand and would check back KK, heart or no heart.

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Two hands I would like to get checked up:


45BB midstages live $600, nowhere near money, KhKc EP, raise 3BB, SB call, BB call. BB has been very loose but running over table by making hands. BB covers hero.

Flop Qh 9s 2h (10BB)

Sb check, BB check, Hero bet 3.5 BB, SB fold, BB calls (maybe could have sized up but whatever)

Turn Qh 9s 2h 4h (17BB)

Hero ???

Is it more advisable to check back here for pot control, or bet to continue to get value? I feel like I can see strong arguments for both, still holding a very strong hand, many worse hands can call, lots of equity even if behind, but on the other hand...

As played Hero bets 10BB, Vililan x/r all in (covers). Hero ??? (28.5 BB to win 93BB)

Feels awful facing that check jam even with the K of hearts.

Ok second hand super simple. $260 live satellite, 28 people left, 14 get package.

Hero 25BB AJo in the BB, LJ raises 2.5x, Hero calls. Lojack is 70+ year old tourney reg who I think is overall a decent player, covers hero but not by a ton.

Flop K J 7 rainbow (6BB).
Hero check, LJ bets 4BB, hero calls.
Turn brick (14BB).
Hero checks, LJ bets 9BB. Hero folds.,

Since it's a satellite I felt ok doing it, but not sure. Just in terms of chip EV seems pio/snowie thinks I should keep calling but just doesn't feel good to call off half my stack OOP with mid pair and another street of action to face. Am I being too nitty in these spots?
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Old 02-10-2020, 04:16 PM   #711
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Had a situation come up that I wanted to ask about.

I’m at the final table of an online tourney, 800 players, $50 buyin. There are 8 left and I’m in 7th.

I have A7o with 21bbs in the BB. HJ minraise opens, folds to me.

Is this a jam, or a call?

Edit: HJ is a good player, he’s 2nd in chips with like 70bbs
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Old 02-19-2020, 09:46 PM   #712
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Had a situation come up that I wanted to ask about.

Iím at the final table of an online tourney, 800 players, $50 buyin. There are 8 left and Iím in 7th.

I have A7o with 21bbs in the BB. HJ minraise opens, folds to me.

Is this a jam, or a call?

Edit: HJ is a good player, heís 2nd in chips with like 70bbs
Meh, this is a tough one kinda. Ok, did you have a hud and #s on Villian. If Villian was aggro, I say jam is solid. Even if you just see Villian is opening a lot, I would prolly jam. 70bbs and lp normally means Villian can open super wide and just find a lot of folds. I would be fine with just flatting and re eval flop if villian is a little more snug.

If the pay jump wasnít a big move in your online roll, I feel jamming is fine and Villian is opening wide
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Old 02-20-2020, 05:20 AM   #713
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Meh, this is a tough one kinda. Ok, did you have a hud and #s on Villian. If Villian was aggro, I say jam is solid. Even if you just see Villian is opening a lot, I would prolly jam. 70bbs and lp normally means Villian can open super wide and just find a lot of folds. I would be fine with just flatting and re eval flop if villian is a little more snug.

If the pay jump wasnít a big move in your online roll, I feel jamming is fine and Villian is opening wide
Thanks for the reply. I donít play with a HUD (dumb but Iím lazy). From what I remember heís been a bit active but I donít have a huge sample so it could be that heís catching cards. I donít think the pay jumps were significant enough for me to care.

Funny spot that was more complicated to me than first glance
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Old 03-20-2020, 07:52 AM   #714
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

Stacks:
UTG (31.36BB) 31bb
UTG+1 (44.13BB) 44bb
MP1 (27.41BB) 27bb
MP2 (12.72BB) 13bb
MP3 Hero (22.48BB) 22bb
CO (53.69BB) 54bb
BTN (58.63BB) 59bb
SB (79.9BB) 80bb
BB (30.17BB) 30bb

Blinds: 0.5BB/1BB Ante 0.13BB

Pre-Flop: (2.63BB, 9 players) Hero is MP3 A Q
4 folds, Hero 22BB

Quick question: FT-spot, everybody behind me is very active/aggro. Are we always just shoving?
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Old 03-20-2020, 09:41 PM   #715
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I’d rather raise/call it off over open jamming. Especially given your description of the players left to act. Even if they weren’t aggro/active I’d still prefer a raise with the intention of calling it off. You really want someone to shove a A7-A10, K10-KQ type hand that probably folds to an open jam
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Old 03-23-2020, 05:44 PM   #716
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teh bigger $55
Villain is random.
I was moved or he was moved 9 hands ago.

Thoughts on all streets are welcome.

PokerStars - $50+$5|150/300 Ante 40 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: 7,684.00
MP+1: 1,685.00
LP: 4,905.00
Hero (CO): 17,321.00
BTN: 17,582.00
SB: 7,420.00
BB: 7,976.00
UTG: 5,701.00
UTG+1: 11,693.00

MP posts ante 40.00, MP+1 posts ante 40.00, LP posts ante 40.00, Hero posts ante 40.00, BTN posts ante 40.00, SB posts ante 40.00, BB posts ante 40.00, UTG posts ante 40.00, UTG+1 posts ante 40.00, SB posts SB 150.00, BB posts BB 300.00

Pre Flop: (810.00) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 611.00, BTN raises to 1,399.00, fold, fold, Hero calls 788.00

Flop: (3608.00, 2 players) 4 T 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,450.00, Hero raises to 4,555.00, BTN calls 3,105.00

Turn: (12718.00, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 11,327.00 and is all-in
Besides 4bet pre I love the C/R on the flop, even though you're attempting to make V pay to see another card, I believe you'll only get called by Top pair or better. two options....Try to induce with a small bet on the turn or check raise jam to price your opp in. p.s That name is vital in these crucial times WASHURHANDS!! PLS
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:09 PM   #717
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Re: Official MSMTT quick checkup thread

ITM in the SM, do we gamble here?

https://www.boomplayer.com/ro/32724919_CD66F5A6D5

what about here?

https://www.boomplayer.com/ro/32724603_80C2E3DFA7

also what's your call range here? thanks a lot

https://www.boomplayer.com/ro/32724991_7A4656D817
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Old 04-09-2020, 04:54 AM   #718
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Hand 1 seems neutral

Hand 2 is snap fold and lol at opponent holdings

Hand 3 to UTG raise is fold

icmizer the answer to these spots
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Old 04-09-2020, 06:22 PM   #719
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Yatahay Network - 5,000/10,000 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 14.83 BB
UTG: 17.28 BB
CO: 21.77 BB
Hero (BTN): 31.41 BB
SB: 36.62 BB

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 36.5 BB and is all-in

Hello ..,

I know this is simple hand that is basicaly depends on specific opponent. I am wondering if you can assist me with telling your ranges for going allin like this player is doing I can easy figure out what to do if knowing V's range
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Old 05-09-2020, 08:55 PM   #720
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I have a quick question
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I play a 1k player MTT. My ITM chance with starting stack is 11%. Now I double up first hand. What is my ITM chance now?
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Old 05-30-2020, 10:26 AM   #721
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thank you for your posts, completely forgot to reply to you both times, didn't play poker/check the thread in a while
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