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Multiway facing aggression from a maniac Multiway facing aggression from a maniac

03-24-2021 , 01:09 PM
This is deep stages in a PKO, so bounties are relevant.

This player I had tagged as a maniac player who would throw out random bluffs when checked to. I had a note where on a similar 4 flush board vs another player, he snap bet 1/2 pot as a bluff. In this case he snap bet pot on the river, which is why I ended up folding thinking it was more for value. Thoughts on how I couldve played leading up to river as well?

Yatahay Network - 15000/30000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 55.68 BB
UTG: 47.76 BB
UTG+1: 52.3 BB
MP: 122.42 BB
CO: 70.64 BB
BTN: 72.22 BB
SB: 71.92 BB

7 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.37 BB) Hero has 8 T

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (9.37 BB, 4 players) 5 6 8
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: (9.37 BB, 4 players) 4
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP bets 4.69 BB, fold, Hero calls 4.69 BB, fold

River: (18.75 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, MP bets 18.75 BB, fold

MP wins 18.75 BB
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03-25-2021 , 02:38 PM
your call preflop is obvious due to pot odds.
You hit a very well flop and maybe this moment you have the best hand
but with 3 other players involded this "better hand" will easily become lost hand.
I would try a bet of 5bb since i Play first to test the waters.
If someone raise me i would fold.
The turn is a disaster completes a str and flush-
obv holdings AA-KK-QQ-AK-AQ-AJ with one hurt
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03-27-2021 , 02:55 AM
I can see why you posted this OP.

I read through the hand history and was thinking, ok you call it off here and we talk about whether V has enough high heart hands to warrant the call.

Th has the same value as 2h and we’re facing a polarised range. I certainly would not hate the call given reads and the high % of air this player has in range.

Reading back through the HH now, would you prefer to crf turn, cc turn or cf turn?
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03-27-2021 , 03:49 PM
I'd fold preflop. Think it's going to play too poorly 4way.

Probably folding turn as well.

Just because someone has bluffs on 4 flush boards in a spot, it's a bit of a stretch to think they're just half potting turn into 3 uncapped ranges and continuing to pot river with a ton of bluffs, but who knows.

Do you have HH of the earlier bluff villain made that you referred to in OP?
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03-27-2021 , 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by streetwalkincheeta
I'd fold preflop. Think it's going to play too poorly 4way.

Probably folding turn as well.

Just because someone has bluffs on 4 flush boards in a spot, it's a bit of a stretch to think they're just half potting turn into 3 uncapped ranges and continuing to pot river with a ton of bluffs, but who knows.

Do you have HH of the earlier bluff villain made that you referred to in OP?
I dont but this was a good ol fashion maniac player. Not a passive fish, or a good player, he was a maniac player so thats why its so close to me. If this was any competant player, I would definitely play it different
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03-27-2021 , 08:44 PM
^ folding Preflop is really bad /nitty
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