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Old 02-10-2021, 10:25 AM   #726
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re: MSMTT quick checkup thread

First off, you don't want to play 3 way flops 40bb deep because your chances of winning the hand drop dramatically, even with kings. You're at a stage of the tournament where every hand, especially a 3 bet hand, is crucial to tournament success. So you want to play with every advantage you can get. Secondly, you don't want to avoid the original raiser from peeling, but you want to make his call unprofitable ( aka not good). If you keep making small 3 bets, you're going to keep getting called light (correctly).

Your logic on the turn check makes no sense. Are you checking so villain bluffs, or to save stack (maybe I'm reading this wrong)? You have a premium hand, that beats 95% of villains range. You're not playing a 3 bet pot to 'save stack.' In regards to villain's bluff heavy tendencies, sure you'll get him to make some bluffs on the river, but you'll get MORE chips by betting the turn, because it hit's his range well. Plus it's never a great idea to rely on a villain to value bet for you.

Villain's flop flat is fine here because most players would barrel turn for value with their premium hands, and then shove river. There's also a lot of AK AQ,TT, that he doesn't want to scare off from barrelling.

Why didn't you shove on the river?
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Old 07-25-2021, 01:53 PM   #727
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I thought this was straightforward, but I have a friend that disagreed with me, so I am posting here. $11R, right after we reached the final table, 9 left, 6 get paid. I was chip leader with 61k. V1 was right behind me at 60k, V2 had about 18k. 1st hand (no reads), with 400/800/100, I was dealt KsKd in MP. I opened to 1840, V2 called on the button, V1 called in the BB. Flop was Ts9s3d. V1 checked, I bet 3200, V2 folded, V1 x/r'ed to 12k. What is your plan? Flat, 4b, or fold? Sorry, this was on Global and I couldn't find any way to see hand records.
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Old 08-01-2021, 02:02 AM   #728
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I thought this was straightforward, but I have a friend that disagreed with me, so I am posting here. $11R, right after we reached the final table, 9 left, 6 get paid. I was chip leader with 61k. V1 was right behind me at 60k, V2 had about 18k. 1st hand (no reads), with 400/800/100, I was dealt KsKd in MP. I opened to 1840, V2 called on the button, V1 called in the BB. Flop was Ts9s3d. V1 checked, I bet 3200, V2 folded, V1 x/r'ed to 12k. What is your plan? Flat, 4b, or fold? Sorry, this was on Global and I couldn't find any way to see hand records.
4b to 30 or just put it all in. Then, cause it's Global, ATo calls and catches another the ace on the river. I kid, but I'm getting it in here. It's ugly but at least you have the spade blocker.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:33 PM   #729
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re: MSMTT quick checkup thread

i'm 95bb under ev the last hour playing 10-28bb poker. 300 hands.
+ bullshit like this happening at the same time:

Yatahay Network - 125/250 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 43.66 BB
MP: 22 BB
MP+1: 32.94 BB
CO: 145.48 BB
Hero (BTN): 58.78 BB
SB: 15.91 BB
BB: 83.2 BB
UTG: 29.4 BB

8 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.46 BB) Hero has 8 A

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (7.46 BB, 3 players) 3 4 6
BB checks, MP+1 bets 3.73 BB, Hero calls 3.73 BB, fold

Turn: (14.92 BB, 2 players) Q
MP+1 bets 11.19 BB, Hero calls 11.19 BB

River: (37.31 BB, 2 players) 3
MP+1 bets 15.89 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 15.89 BB

MP+1 shows 6 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Threes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 34%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows 8 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 66%, Turn 77%)
MP+1 wins 69.09 BB

Villain is spewtard who would take same line with 4/5 ace highs in his range and all over pairs with or without a spade. mtts are the trashest format
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Old 08-07-2021, 11:51 AM   #730
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To finish of my whining and post another spot i ended session running 150bb under ev playing latereg poker and running at most even in coolers. 0% itm session lmao.

Yatahay Network - 7000/14000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 34.72 BB
BTN: 23.74 BB
SB: 27.72 BB
BB: 57.29 BB
UTG: 37.81 BB
Hero (UTG+1): 28.16 BB
MP: 10.33 BB

7 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.37 BB) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to 2.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 1.6 BB, BB calls 1.1 BB

Flop: (7.17 BB, 3 players) 5 9 6
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 4.74 BB, SB calls 4.74 BB, BB calls 4.74 BB

Turn: (21.38 BB, 3 players) 7
SB bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB, fold

River: (27.38 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, BB bets 18 BB, SB calls 17.76 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:


Not often you lay down aces getting 9:1 ip on turn.
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Old 08-12-2021, 04:45 PM   #731
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4b to 30 or just put it all in. Then, cause it's Global, ATo calls and catches another the ace on the river. I kid, but I'm getting it in here. It's ugly but at least you have the spade blocker.
I did 3b to 30 and he folded, but my friend actually said I should have folded, which I found stupid, lol.
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Old Today, 08:41 PM   #732
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Re: MSMTT quick checkup thread

Villain is running 38/6 over 71 hands... Is there any merit here in checking flop and turn and trying to get a river bet in? I have been playing very aggro and cbetting a lot, especially on dry flops but he is relatively new to the table and probably not very good or paying attention to stuff like board texture and ranges. Like, I wouldn't want to ever check this against a reg because I believe it doesn't make sense with my range and the board textures I cbet on etc, but I guess I could probably do some checking here maybe?

This is the Chico Main event 200k GTD with like ~5 tables left

    Chico - 100000/200000 Ante 24000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BTN: 3,966,432 (19.8 bb)
    SB: 1,849,998 (9.2 bb)
    BB: 1,812,912 (9.1 bb)
    Hero (UTG): 4,910,223 (24.6 bb)
    MP: 6,212,824 (31.1 bb)
    CO: 7,084,519 (35.4 bb)

    6 players post ante of 24,000, SB posts 100,000, BB posts 200,000

    Pre Flop: (pot: 444,000) Hero has 5 5
    Hero raises to 444,000, 3 folds, SB calls 344,000, fold

    Flop: (1,232,000, 2 players) Q 5 3
    SB checks, Hero bets 343,520, fold

    Results: 1,232,000 pot (0 rake)
    Final Board: Q 5 3

    Hero wins 1,232,000
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