MCOP €1500 : folding 2 pairs on the flop - Page 3 - MTT Poker Strategy

Obv agree with your 1st 2 assumptions but it's not quite as simple as getting it in 3way having > 33% equity. If were against 2 capped ranges (with top2 & equal stacks) AND we're closing the action then in most scenarios it's fine but if CO is not a ****** and it goes bet-25bb shove-100bb iso-call we prob dont get it in too goot here.

Btw...would you consider folding if your staying in a comped suite at the Casino hotel?

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11-30-2018 , 10:24 AM

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Eric, note that there are 2 more players in the game on EP and MP in addition to those on CO and BTN. They do have TT, KK in their preflop ranges.

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11-30-2018 , 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cizixap

Eric, note that there are 2 more players in the game on EP and MP in addition to those on CO and BTN. They do have TT, KK in their preflop ranges.

They 3bet KK way more than they flat it, and your analysis had everyone flatting KK 100% of the time

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11-30-2018 , 10:43 AM

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Yes, agree that I've way oversimplified things. Check my earlier posts, I was way more into flatting vs 3betting than a lot were, for this reason (though upon further thought I think I've been convinced jamming is best).

Is the casino only comping me a suite as long as I'm in the tournament? I don't think it matters to me either way, I don't think this spot is close to a fold, but maybe that would make me think more with a weaker hand like T6.

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11-30-2018 , 11:26 AM

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Hi Guys I'm new to this forum so just familiarising myself with content etc

Is this a troll thread ? Ive read OP's comments and cannot believe if he is being serious or not as im not quite used to the humour of this site ?

Does he actually believe folding top 2 is + EV ?

Thanks for the guidance ?

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11-30-2018 , 11:31 AM

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Eric, note that there are 2 more players in the game on EP and MP in addition to those on CO and BTN. They do have TT, KK in their preflop ranges.

Hello Sir , im new here nice to meet you

Are you a troll or do you believe this nonsense you speak ? Im trying to figure out thank you in advance

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11-30-2018 , 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ashman1134

Hi Guys I'm new to this forum so just familiarising myself with content etc

Is this a troll thread ? Ive read OP's comments and cannot believe if he is being serious or not as im not quite used to the humour of this site ?

Does he actually believe folding top 2 is + EV ?

Thanks for the guidance ?

Dude, EV of folding any hand is 0. If u don't understand that, unreg from this forum and go play some black jack. You are welcome

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11-30-2018 , 01:15 PM

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Doubt its a troll.

The amazing thing about poker is that few people are good at it, yet almost everyone thinks they are. This moron thought he came up with a genius play and posted it here thinking people would jerk him off for making a brilliant fold. Instead of course they told him he's a mongoloid, and because this is unfathomable to OP he instead turned around and called everyone idiots for not recognizing the brilliance of his fold.

There are mouth breathers like this in every cardroom (thank god!) but only some of them make their way to 2+2.

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11-30-2018 , 02:49 PM

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Yet people, who think that they are smart, allow themselves to use such expressions as you can see in the post above. "mongoloid", "moron"...you should be really banned dude for using them, I report you to mods.

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12-01-2018 , 12:04 AM

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OP, results?

I would bet a good amount of money his results ”confirm” it was a good fold or that it never went to sd. He would not have posted this hand if he was up against 2x fd and would have won. If I had to guess, it would be that CO had 66 and BU had KQ, thus ”proving” him right. Basic fish logic.

Also in addition to villains being capped pre ( CO,BU have no KK, few TT) they (EP,MP) also should cbet w/ TT, KK otf >0%. This is obvious to most.

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12-01-2018 , 07:17 AM

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if u really wanna know the result, here it is and let's just close this topic once and forever...enough anger and insulting.

Spoiler:

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12-01-2018 , 07:43 PM

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Excellent lay-down, sir!

- Jean-Robert Bellande

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12-01-2018 , 08:28 PM

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oldsilver

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Hilarious

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12-01-2018 , 10:27 PM

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Ok upping the venmo prize to $2. Someone find me a thread with a worse fold.

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