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01-14-2019 , 01:48 PM
Live tourney, buyin $1100.

Hero is a cash player, not sure about some lines in tournament.

This is quit early stage in the tournament - level 7, blinds 300-600 with 600 bb ante.

V (about 60K stack, starting stack is 30k), very fishy rec player, never fold top pair, preflop raise with a lot of sizing tell - he opens 2k from MP, it's saying he has mid pocket pair or a big A here.

Hero (about 50K), next to act with AKo 3bet to 5200, normally in cash game, this should be a 3x+ sizing, but I realize it's smaller in tournaments, so is the sizing okay?

Fold all the way back to V snap jammed allin - should hero call here? If i am 100% sure V has a middle pair here such as JJ/TT/99, should I gamble at this point? Registration is still open.

Quite inexperienced for the MTT. Thanks in advance for all responses.
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01-14-2019 , 02:40 PM
This is a clear fold in a 1100 buy in with a normal decent structure. Even if you're cool with firing another bullet I dont think the utility of the chips you gain if you win is nearly valuable enough to take this spot.

Unless you've seen him make big overshoves with hands you dominate, just let it go and punish him post flop.

Three bet sizing should still be 3x.. at least (even over the big open ImO) when your 85 BB effective and IP against this player type.
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01-14-2019 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerNoob@
If i am 100% sure V has a middle pair here such as JJ/TT/99, should I gamble at this point?
And what does he do with QQ+? doesn't he also jam them?

I think it looks like a fold and wait for a better spot. It's close-ish though for 30k, and I don't have a big issue with calling against the described V. He could be tilting, he could want a new stack since he's only at 1/2 starting, etc.

It's important to keep in mind in tournaments that players who are very splashy postflop can be relatively conservative preflop by comparison. Live recs have a tendency to undervalue hands preflop (part of it is not wanting to get busted from the tournament).
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01-14-2019 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
And what does he do with QQ+? doesn't he also jam them?

I think it looks like a fold and wait for a better spot. It's close-ish though for 30k, and I don't have a big issue with calling against the described V. He could be tilting, he could want a new stack since he's only at 1/2 starting, etc.

It's important to keep in mind in tournaments that players who are very splashy postflop can be relatively conservative preflop by comparison. Live recs have a tendency to undervalue hands preflop (part of it is not wanting to get busted from the tournament).

Starting stack is 30k. Villain has 60k
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01-14-2019 , 05:07 PM
Oh my bad.
Snap fold lol.
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01-14-2019 , 07:16 PM
When a fishy live V suddenly takes it from 0 to 60 like this, you can comfortably fold AKo. He just 10x'ed your 3bet sizing lol.

Against a random live V I'm not sure how you come up with him having a sizing tell this early in the event, and for such a specific range. His open sizing is totally normal in a live event and I don't see how you can possibly rule out QQ+. IMO the only way to know for sure he has a mid PP is if he turns his cards over. Otherwise his range here should be considered just a normal, uncapped fairly tight open range.

Calling AI to be on the bad side of a flip for 100bb is not a good strategy.
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01-14-2019 , 08:18 PM
Also most live mtts guys and most live guys aren’t 4b much hands at all
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01-14-2019 , 08:27 PM
Fold
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01-14-2019 , 08:48 PM
I would sigh fold. Your 3 bet pre should be bigger. I would be fine with 3x-4x his open. Value from ak comes from building a pot and betting when you make tptk. You are ahead of Villians flatting range so should be building a pot in position.
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01-15-2019 , 11:22 AM
Thank you all.

V's been table for couple hours but has show down tons - he would open 3x -4x in ep with pocket pair, the smaller the pair the bigger the sizing, also normal sizing(2.5x) with other marginal hands like T9s or so.

I agree 3bet should be bigger with 85bb effect.

the question i have is actually - in early stage(re-enter is open), in MTT should I gamble (take +ev play for sure) to accumulate chips? This is kinda a strategy question that I don't really know as I play cash game.

Again, thank you all for the inputs.
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01-15-2019 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerNoob@
the question i have is actually - in early stage(re-enter is open), in MTT should I gamble (take +ev play for sure) to accumulate chips? This is kinda a strategy question that I don't really know as I play cash game.
Most $1,100 buy-in tourneys nowadays have great structures and are normally run over multiple days. There's really no need to take marginal situations to accumulate chips early on. Passing up small edges in favour of exploiting a skill advantage over several hours in a deep tournament seems a better strategy. I don't generally enter $1,100 tourneys planning to fire 3 or 4 bullets...but to each their own.
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