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Live 00 Event facing river jam holding KQs Live 00 Event facing river jam holding KQs

08-29-2021 , 05:06 PM
Move to a new table, have played about 2 orbits. Most people at the table are older gentlemen routinely opening 3x raises pre. Im likely seen as a young agg player

I have about 85k blinds are 1/2k. We have been playing for about 7 hours (dinner break just ended about 25 minutes ago). Around level 12

In HJ with KQ

UTG + 3 (villain) opens 5.5k (about standard for this table, most were opening 4x or 4.5x)

I dont have many reads on the villain but he does have a healthy stack of around 140k or so.

I thinking about raising, but decided to flat as I have just 3bet in the small blind couple hands ago with A3o , then had to make a big cbet on flop to take it down.

Heads up to flop of

Q46

V makes it 8k i call

Turn is 3

V makes it 15k i call

river is 2

now V shoves putting my rest of ~60K at risk
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08-29-2021 , 05:16 PM
Seems like an easy fold vs Villain as described. I don't think he is blasting off with AK; I guess AK/AJss make sense, but you will see AA,KK,QQ almost always here. Yes, we block some of that, but there are still 10 combos there, vs just a few missed spade combos.
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08-29-2021 , 10:36 PM
Should be raising this flop a good % of the time. I think we're missing an additional action and with not 3b'ing, the raise on the flop could have created a different situation.

Fold as played.
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08-29-2021 , 11:20 PM
I like flat call Preflop. If he’s opening tight I don’t think 3bet accomplishes anything - we fold out hands we have dominated and it’s strong enough we want to go post flop in position. This is very opponent dependent. Obviously if we think he’s spewing off here it’s a call. Realistically very few players bluff like this so it’s likely KK, AA or AQ. I would not raise the flop often, only sometimes. What does a flop raise accomplish? We get a lot of folds and when he continues we are often behind. Are we betting again on the turn? And then also river? Probably we would check back the river. So we only get 2 streets of value - much easier to do it by calling and also allowing him to continue to bet with inferior hands. Also what bluffs are we ever raising on this flop? We have some but not many. I like calling the turn because he may just be bombing with QJ or JJ or something dumb. To be fair I have seen old guys do this with AK because they Cbet 100% from oop post flop and just hope you fold. But that’s probably exception to the rule. The river shove is for pot? If so that’s a huge bet and maybe this is like a break even call. It is strange he shoves the river but again, very seldom do people bluff like this.
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08-30-2021 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishMids
Should be raising this flop a good % of the time. I think we're missing an additional action and with not 3b'ing, the raise on the flop could have created a different situation.

Fold as played.
no
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08-30-2021 , 10:42 PM
^^^ If people are over cbetting from oop which almost everyone is (hint) the betting volume from the oop player is not supposed to be very high here. Then you can start raising cbets and getting more ev w a hand like kq
Anyways I’d probably fold too otr but if you called I’d be fine with that
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08-31-2021 , 11:59 AM
But also when you’re in a spot where the player isn’t supposed to be betting a ton and then he starts deciding to just start pouring $ in its likely that he’s pretty Strong lol
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09-02-2021 , 03:05 AM
I would talk myself into a call, live players don't bet thin in these spots.
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