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06-16-2017 , 05:30 PM
Hi.

This is from a live tournament, where we´re 12 players (6 for table), final table is 10 players and it pays to 6 players.

I believe I made the same action all the time, and as correct, but because some people said I played bad, I would like your opinion:

Blinds are 3.000/6.000, ante 500

Average stack is around 100.000 and I'm the shortstack of the table with 36.000 (3.000 on the SB).

The BB is a very tight player, last hand went all in with AA UTG and got paid and goes to around 90.000.

I'm at the SB and all fold to me. I shove and he pays after a long thinking with ATs. I had J4o.

Do you think I play bad? I had around 6 blinds. If yes, which range would you consider shoving?

Miguel
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06-16-2017 , 06:32 PM
Pushfoldcharts.com
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06-16-2017 , 09:57 PM
It would be easier to list the hands I wouldn't push. About the bottom 15%
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06-18-2017 , 12:05 AM
Any J is good enough here op.
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06-18-2017 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jjpregler
It would be easier to list the hands I wouldn't push. About the bottom 15%
You're exactly right - Jennifear has you pushing 85% here.

LOL at BB not insta calling with ATs
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06-18-2017 , 08:31 PM
use icmizer for these spots.
Jx hands BVB at 6max is obv a shove.
As you say he is tight and 36k is a good amount of his 90K stack so only with good hands he will call.
And with some of them as with the AT you play well.

Clearly a shove!
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06-18-2017 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8tavou
use icmizer for these spots.
Jx hands BVB at 6max is obv a shove.
As you say he is tight and 36k is a good amount of his 90K stack so only with good hands he will call.
And with some of them as with the AT you play well.

Clearly a shove!
Why is the 6 relevant at all? It would make no difference if there was 10 or 3 at the table.
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06-18-2017 , 09:02 PM
6max shoving ranges are way wider than 9man
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06-18-2017 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8tavou
6max shoving ranges are way wider than 9man
? is SBvBB play different in 6max and 9max?
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06-18-2017 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8tavou
6max shoving ranges are way wider than 9man
Why on earth should they be from the SB facing folds in front of you?

you have 4 folds in front of you instead of 7. I guess you could make an argument that the 3 extra people might be weighted towards non high cards, so there may be a case, but it's going to be at the very margin at best.
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06-18-2017 , 10:02 PM
Lets say you are dealt AT with 5 opponents and with 8 opponents.
In which case AT will be most of the times the best hand being dealt?
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06-18-2017 , 10:37 PM
Relative position is what is important, not how many people are at the table. Your CO opening range should be the same in 6max and 9max.
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06-18-2017 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8tavou
Lets say you are dealt AT with 5 opponents and with 8 opponents.
In which case AT will be most of the times the best hand being dealt?
Ok, so this is a completely nonsense argument. I thought you might have an interesting nuanced point, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.
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06-18-2017 , 11:38 PM
If you cant understand what i am saying replying like this doesnt help someone.

What im saying is that ranges are much wider in 6max hands. Nothing else. Nothing more.

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06-19-2017 , 11:18 AM
Your LJ, HJ, CO, BTN, and SB opening ranges and shoving ranges should not change from 6max to 9max. They shouldn't be wider or tighter. You technically play wider in 6max, but that's because you have 3 EP positions in 9 max, where your range must be tighter.
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06-19-2017 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Your LJ, HJ, CO, BTN, and SB opening ranges and shoving ranges should not change from 6max to 9max. They shouldn't be wider or tighter. You technically play wider in 6max, but that's because you have 3 EP positions in 9 max, where your range must be tighter.
Bless you. You have more patience than I do.
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06-19-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hitchens97

LOL at BB not insta calling with ATs
^^ new definition of 'very tight player'
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06-20-2017 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Your LJ, HJ, CO, BTN, and SB opening ranges and shoving ranges should not change from 6max to 9max. They shouldn't be wider or tighter. You technically play wider in 6max, but that's because you have 3 EP positions in 9 max, where your range must be tighter.
When there are antes, you should probably actually open a little looser in late positions and blinds in 9max than in 6max, since you are getting slightly better pot odds.
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06-20-2017 , 10:37 PM
Shove ATC into very tight player who tanked with ATs.
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