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Old 08-11-2020, 03:42 PM   #1
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Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

Hero is 4/14
Has 35bb
BU Jams around 15bb
BB has 60BB
Should the strategy be to call the BU allin and fold if the BB jams or just rejam ourself.
Would love to hear your responses.
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NL Holdem ₹100000+₹0 (56000BB)
HERO ($2105724) [VPIP: 25.1% | PFR: 16.9% | AGG: 24.3% | Hands: 1862]
BB ($3036100) [VPIP: 24.8% | PFR: 15.3% | AGG: 26.4% | Hands: 242]
UTG ($98084) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 36]
HJ ($833268) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 9.8% | AGG: 38.7% | Hands: 124]
CO ($2431370) [VPIP: 14.1% | PFR: 4% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 99]
BTN ($832251) [VPIP: 27.5% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 27.3% | Hands: 123]

Dealt to Hero: 8 8

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $832251 (allin), HERO Calls $797251, BB Raises To $3036100 (allin), HERO Folds

Flop ($4721602): J T 6

Turn ($4721602): J T 6 A

River ($4721602): J T 6 A 4

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Old 08-11-2020, 04:12 PM   #2
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

Say you flat and BB jams. What % equity do you need to call?
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Old 08-11-2020, 04:18 PM   #3
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

To answer your question, I don’t think flatting the 15bb is a good move with 8’s and the larger stack in the BB. I think shove or fold makes sense and I don’t think I’m folding.....
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Old 08-11-2020, 04:55 PM   #4
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

I would 3-bet jam pre-flop.

If not then I would fold but I would only be folding if BTN was particularly tight and hadn't been opening from LP except with premium hands. This is far fetched really as we are close to the end of the tourney. The other time I might fold is if everyone (at the table) was significantly worse than me which in itself would also be rare.

As played this is a rough spot emotionally but I think it is a clear cut call. I am assuming that BB wouldn't shove with AJ and would also be likely folding 22-77.

We are getting roughly 3:1 pot odds and if Villain is shoving AQ+/99+ we have roughly 36% equity. If Villain is shoving AQs/AK/99+ then it looks a bit worse at about 32% but still way above the 25% we need.
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Old 08-12-2020, 02:58 AM   #5
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

Not a bad spot to be in and should shove pre.

Your hand is in good shape vs BTN (Unless tight), BB is folding plenty and if you lose you still have a fair stack
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:18 AM   #6
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

Why didn’t our flush win? I’d rejam preflop. You just can flat/fold at this depth.
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Old 08-13-2020, 06:30 PM   #7
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

Would need the payouts (1st-12th/13th) and the stacks (of the other table) to provide the ICM solution.

Would need reads on BTN and BB (at the very least) to speculate.

As played without any ICM considerations, you're getting ~3.7 to 1 with ~28% equity vs a 25% BTN open shoving range and a 5% BB iso.



In a FT/ICM scenario with std payouts, 88 should be at the bottom of your iso range. Your flatting range should be very narrow (AA/KK) and some random Ax for your c/f.
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Old 08-14-2020, 02:19 AM   #8
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

Thank you everyone for your valuable inputs.
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Old 08-14-2020, 02:20 AM   #9
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

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Why didnít our flush win? Iíd rejam preflop. You just can flat/fold at this depth.
because I called and folded to bb rejam
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Old 08-14-2020, 02:22 AM   #10
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Would need the payouts (1st-12th/13th) and the stacks (of the other table) to provide the ICM solution.

Would need reads on BTN and BB (at the very least) to speculate.

As played without any ICM considerations, you're getting ~3.7 to 1 with ~28% equity vs a 25% BTN open shoving range and a 5% BB iso.



In a FT/ICM scenario with std payouts, 88 should be at the bottom of your iso range. Your flatting range should be very narrow (AA/KK) and some random Ax for your c/f.
No real reads
Standard payout structure
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:38 AM   #11
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Re: Intresting spot on final 2 tables in $2k online tournament

I think I would fold this one, it’s probably a bit too nitty. But sitting 4/14 with big stack behind I don’t think you want to risk almost half your stack on a coin flip. I thinking calling is the worst option, jamming is probably okay but even vs a wide BU opening range you are probably 50% at best.
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