This is the $1M guarantee/$600 entry PKO on ACR. We still have 3 levels of re-entry. I have a $225 bounty and V has the starting $175 bounty. No reads on V other than that his icon indicates he's from Hungary. V has around 47 bbs. I have around 62 bbs.

OTTH

V opens UTG +2 to 2 bbs. HJ, BU and SB call. I have Ah6h in BB and call.

Flop (11 bbs): 6d8dJh. Checked around.

Turn (11 bbs): 2h. I check, V bets 6 bbs, HJ, BU and SB fold. I call. Anyone recommend x/r here? Lead?

River (23 bbs): 3c. I check, V bets 20 bbs. Me? I don't understand V's line here, particularly double-barrelling after checking the draw heavy flop. I would expect even a set to bet the flop, and most lesser value to check back river as I could be on a lot of busted draws. The only hand that makes some sense is 22. Anyway, should I find a call here versus this line? Should I have taken the initiative at some point in the hand?

First off, A6s is a marginal hand. Given that you're in the BB and are looking at 10:1 odds that's a pretty easy call, but you need to be in the state of mind that you are in the hand for the nut flush. If you hit a pair you're either looking at a weak pair with a strong kicker or a strong pair with a weak kicker, neither of which are hands you want to be getting too many chips in with.

Villain checking the flop doesn't mean much. Any raise from UTG indicates some kind of strength. Even those he's 3rd to act there are still 2 players behind him and it's a pretty ragged board. If he did make a set, or if he has an overpair, it makes a lot of sense for him to check.

When the turn hit you are only playing your flush draw. 3rd pair against a villain who is representing strength isn't getting it done. You're getting a little less than 3:1 odds on a 4:1 draw. Not good. Even if the flush *does* connect, I don't think the implied odds are there. If your flush connects on the river he's probably not going to call any huge bets, so you can realistically only rely on the pot odds, which aren't in your favor.

At the river you're now looking at 20 to win 43. Not great, especially given that's nearly 40% of your remaining stack and will leave you somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 BB.

You have a pair of sixes against a board with 2 overcards and facing a player who raised UTG and made a 1/2 pot size bet on the turn facing a couple draws. The only draw that connected on the river is the unlikely 45, so villain isn't worried about straights or flushes, and now makes a bigger bet to try to get paid, whether he has a set, a pair of jacks, or any other pair.

Your hand is incredibly weak and you are facing horrible odds. You’re behind pretty much everything other than villain bluffing with air. There is no way in which you can call here. I might have folded on the turn, but it's not the worst call ever. But you can't make that call if you are clinging to your sixes, you can only stay in this hand with the understanding that you are looking for the flush and nothing more.


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If a 6 peels on the river, I'm almost certainly calling. A is likely a call too. I can get on board with V checking an overpair or strong J on the flop. But why would those hands make nearly a psb on the river when I'm most likely calling the turn with a draw that's not going to call the river? Maybe, I have a pair and draw (like I do), where a much smaller river bet makes sense with TPTK or overpair. As you stated, none of the likely draws hit and unless he thinks I'm calling Jx, it's hard to see what value he's repping.

Do you seriously think your sixes are good here?? That’s the only question you need to ask yourself.

Not sure why it matters if it’s pot size or 1/2 pot. Making a smaller river bet to try to get a busted draw to call doesn’t make any sense because a busted draw should fold to any aggression. He’s representing a strong hand. Maybe he has a set or has QQ and hopes AJ will call, who knows. There’s no point in speculating because you are holding trash at the river, and it makes absolutely zero sense to call off half your stack on just a hunch that he’s trying to steal with a broken draw or something.


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Because I can have a lot of pairs, plus draws that might find a call for a smaller bet.

Obviously, the 6s beat none of V's value. But do think V has zero bluffs here? I think he has a lot of missed draws, particularly when it's checked around on flop. So the question is: What's V's mix of value versus bluffs, and secondarily, do we beat all of his bluffs?

Nh Fold river
Utg is checking almost 100% to start with otf in this texture when he bets ott for this size into 3zillion people he’s gonna be pretty strong

I would fold river. Bet sizing looks polarizing, but turn bet means it is unlikely to be a bluff.

I would think 5 ways with a set Villain would bet the flop. But Villain may also be looking to c/r if HJ or BTN get aggressive.

Turn bet for Villain looks like JT+/66+. Blinds have checked twice and HJ/BTN have checked behind. Nobody has 2 pair+. Doubt villain is bluffing.

A river bet by hero looks like it could be a missed draw. Villain would call with 77+ anyway.

It is conceivable that Villain has a hand like QT or T9s. But there are so many hands that beat you it seems like a losing call in the long run.

Thanks, everyone. I folded, but V's line is still bothering me. Flop check with overpair or TPTK/TPGK is perfectly understandable, as is the turn bet. The river bet/sizing, though, is very odd considering my range has a lot of air and relatively weak holdings (lots of 1 pair + draw). You'd think he would make a much smaller value bet. Of course, V might not recognize this; or V might make the large bet because it looks more like a bluff to a good player. But the simpler explanation is that the larger bet represents more bluffs than a smaller value bet.

I totally acknowledge it would be a total hero call here -- but some of my deepest runs/biggest cashes have come when I made hero calls in critical situations based on my intuition that V's line was fishy. That said, I have also been crippled/eliminated when making hero calls too.

Betting big on river with your value hands works surprisingly often, exactly because people read it as fishy or you trying to steal. I have fallen for that trick a few times myself & used it vs other people multiple times. The reverse works as well, bet small with your bluffs and people read it as value. I think we should be more concerned with our range vs V range then bet size in this spot.