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I need help in NL texas tournament middle stages. I need help in NL texas tournament middle stages.

08-18-2019 , 06:43 PM
Im not winning player yet, but i feel my time will come. I have tried new playing technique LAG and it seems much better for me when most players are playing tight and 3x betting preflop and half betting on the flop seems to work well. I try to play alot of hands lets say 20%. and i have noticed that for me hands like 89s, 79s, T9o, TJo etc.. they are much easier to fold if you dont hit the board and you dont end up losing too much. Usually i am more calm when playing 8Ts than AK. And sometimes they make good combinations. Usually hands that throw me out from a tournament are KK,QQ,JJ,AK,AQ,AJ

but my problems come when we are closing to price money middle stages. I like to three bet alot preflop and half bet flop, but almost everytime middle stages start people start to play more aggressively. When i 3x bet someone with a smaller stack go all in or someone else re raise and i end up folding and my blind steals are not working anymore. I am confused about my game, if poker gods dont give me cards i am starting to lose my stack middle stages with my beautiful meadium strenght hands. Should i tighten up my game? All the forums say you should open up and be brave. Of course depends on the table but online your table changes all the time and usually there is people who are short stacked who are playing tight and few aggressive players with medium to big stack who usually makes table uncomfortable.

How should i approach to this problem? And if someone has tips for playing hands above i mentioned that end up my tournaments i would appreciate.

ps. meet you up in EPT Prague in december.
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08-19-2019 , 12:14 PM
When there are multiple short stacks at the table, only play hands that you want to see all five cards with.

Opening 7-5 suited for 2.5 BB and get shoved on for 9 BB's sucks.

Opening J-J or A-Q for 2.5 BB and get shoved on for 9 BB's isn't so bad.

You always need to be aware of all stack sizes at the table. Against a short stacked player, you either force them to go all in , or bet down, to make their shove a little more difficult.

Best way to be successful is to wait for good cards and win flips. I know, sounds stupid, but it is true.
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08-19-2019 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
When there are multiple short stacks at the table, only play hands that you want to see all five cards with.

Opening 7-5 suited for 2.5 BB and get shoved on for 9 BB's sucks.

Opening J-J or A-Q for 2.5 BB and get shoved on for 9 BB's isn't so bad.

You always need to be aware of all stack sizes at the table. Against a short stacked player, you either force them to go all in , or bet down, to make their shove a little more difficult.

Best way to be successful is to wait for good cards and win flips. I know, sounds stupid, but it is true.

Thanks for your advice specially for the first one, but the last advice about waiting for good hands and winning flips. I think best way is to win alot of smaller pots and avoid all in when you are not sure. Of course if situation is bad and you need to go all in lets say you are less than 10 bb and you get TT or AJ best move is to go all in than die in blinds.

but is it better to use this coinflip tactic generally against smaller stacks who are less than 60% of your size, if you end up losing your tournaments is not over? Because going all in many times in tournament even if you would be favourite everytime at some point odds are against you. Lets say you are 65% favourite and run that ten times. Most likely you gonna be out. And what if good enough hands wont come? Like best you get is ATs. You think it is good enough to call small stack all in middle stages?

And if you end up losing coin flip and now less than 15BB and you are late position or in blinds and someone with big stack raises before you 3x BB. It can be blind steal or maybe he has a hand. You have A5s what you do?
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08-19-2019 , 02:43 PM
Coinflip tactic is best against small stacks.

Typically, you want to raise 2.5 x if you are first one in and you have 20+ Big blinds.

If a guy with 7 Bigs goes all in, you are committed to call with any two. If a big stack makes it 7.5 Bigs, over your 2.5, you can fold if you don't have a great hand or good feel.

Best to bet small, but have a plan for the hand against the various stack sizes at the table.

And, I don't try to win flips. I wait for good cards, and if I have to flip, I like to have good cards to do it with. Of course, you sometimes raise with K-J suited and a guy shoves and you have to fold.
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08-19-2019 , 06:36 PM
You think generally betting 2.5x BB is better than 3x BB ?

"Best to bet small, but have a plan for the hand against the various stack sizes at the table" - Thanks, This advice is golden i get it now.

And when you was telling not having good feel. Do you think people should listen to their intuition more in the game? My teacher in the school told me before exam that if you are not sure what is the answer trust your intuition. It was checkbox a,b,c,d option kind of exam. Usually intuition and subconscious mind knows a lot more than we think. For example i had KK yesterday in heads up and before went all in i was sure i am going to lose and i ****ing lost. Also intuition is wrong sometimes so its hard to find any pattern to follow it, but subject is super interesting.
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08-19-2019 , 07:29 PM
Honestly, not meant to be glib, truly 100% genuine advice: study more*

You're asking questions about the trees, the contents of your question imply you should be asking questions about the forest.

*If you want recommendations, well sticking around the forums would be a good start. Post some hands!
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08-19-2019 , 08:15 PM
Read Harrington's books on tournament poker for some theory and commonly used terminology. The strategy is dated but most people still use the language and concepts.

IF you are a cash player, you should be more comfortable playing deep and LAG in the early stages because it is most similar to cash. It sounds like you don't adjust when the blinds equal a greater percentage of your stack and/or their are significant stack sizes differences at your table.
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08-19-2019 , 09:39 PM
Intiution is good, but think it through. Does his play make sense?

Here's one I had this weekend.

10's big blind, UTG raises, late position 3 bets, I flat, wanting to see what UTG does. He flats. Go three ways. 4-4-2 flop, I check, utg donks out, 3 better folds, I ship.

It made no sense he had Aces, Kings or Queens. He would have 4 bet. He calls with 7's. His donk didn't make sense after thinking it through. If the 3 better calls, I am worried about him, not the UTG player.

It wasn't intuition that allowed me to make an easy ship, it was thinking it through. Sure, he could have had jacks, or the random Ace 4, but in that spot I am ahead of 90% of his range.

Also, A-5 is an easy fold. What are you dominating? Not much. If you are first to enter the pot in the cutoff, sure, you can ship it in short. But, when he raises 3x, shoving 10-15 Blinds, I see little fold equity there.
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08-20-2019 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EggsMcBluffin
Honestly, not meant to be glib, truly 100% genuine advice: study more*

You're asking questions about the trees, the contents of your question imply you should be asking questions about the forest.

*If you want recommendations, well sticking around the forums would be a good start. Post some hands!
I am not sure about harringtons books, because they are probably most read books out there and if everyone is using the same tactics its not gonna be so useful. Same with stock exchange indicators. More people are using them less they have real value. You dickhead. I am not as beginner as you think. I have played quite a bit more as a hobby, but now i want to approach more professionally to this game. I have won couple of tournaments in my life, but overall under the line invested in the game and winnings. I am on the negative side. Not too much, but i want to change that and i am willing to do my homework which i think i am needing. Anyway harringtons books i can get them today if i want, because my father has them and i am going to visit him today anyway, maybe i take them with me. I was thinking buying books the raisers edge and kill everyone.
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08-20-2019 , 06:28 AM
OP if you enjoy poker as much as this then get a coach

I could dissect your post but what you really need is some building blocks to start analysing hands correctly

Edit: lol, just read @Eggs post, same advice, different yo-yo
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08-20-2019 , 06:53 AM
Original poster, you are struggling with basic concepts.

That is all they were saying.

Harrington's books will help you get the building blocks.

Calling one of the best analytical minds on this forum a dickhead is negative EV for sure.
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08-20-2019 , 09:51 AM
It is hard to recognize OPs actual skill level because of his poor English skills and translation program. I think he was calling me the dickhead as I suggested he read a book for its building blocks, but it is confusing when he only quoted Eggs post.

Fortunately, this experienced player, who is not a winner but will see everyone at the EPT next year, broke the code and knows that the shortcut to middle tournament success is to join 2+2 in 2019 and get the magic formula to LAG play on his fourth post. Not third or fifth, it the fourth.

The answer is, of course, tubalcain or 2.75x unless intuition then 4.2 < 3.9x.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b40cbec...d-32de232c9793

Last edited by jjjou812; 08-20-2019 at 09:57 AM.
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08-20-2019 , 02:25 PM
Thanks for advicing me. I got Harringtons three books today. I start from there. Before the quality of this thread goes to zero i apologize calling you dickhead. I am here to learn and yes my English is not perfect i am from Finland and English is not our first language.
When i play next time i will capture some hands and post them here if and when there is something i am not sure how it is played correctly.

And i dont want to get a coach. I prefer reading and watching videos and studying this way.
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08-20-2019 , 03:59 PM
jjjou812, you are pretty sound, as well. Also would not want to call you a dickhead! Haha, Tombon apologized.

Tombon, we are here to help, and even if our replies are sarcastic or mean, they are designed to help.

Posting hands is fun. Even if you think you played the hand perfectly, post it, and see what other people may have done. If you disagree with their reasoning, you will at least learn what other tournament players are capable of.

Currently there is a great discussion on KQ suited in the little blind versus big blind and players have given rationale on folding, going all in or flat calling! And, I think most people posting have been relatively successful in multi table tournaments!

my personal strategy is small balling and making big laydowns. I still do that, but reading and talking to the players here as made me a tiny bit stickier, which is already showing improved results.
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09-09-2019 , 03:03 PM
Hello. This happened today and how you guys would have played this? Usually this kind of hand i reraise preflop but i felt just calling.

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pekeee [Ad Kd]
Gersonincra: folds
giony92d: folds
auster8: folds
OMG_molini: raises 1120 to 2120
pekeee: calls 2120
JOKERLAZA808: folds
g1anfar: folds
BöhzeTante: calls 1620
jivan12: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 3h Qd]
BöhzeTante: checks
OMG_molini: bets 2478
pekeee: calls 2478
BöhzeTante: folds
*** TURN *** [2c 3h Qd] [2s]
OMG_molini: checks
pekeee: bets 13144 and is all-in
OMG_molini: calls 9034 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (4110) returned to pekeee
*** RIVER *** [2c 3h Qd 2s] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OMG_molini: shows [9d 9s] (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
pekeee: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Deuces)
OMG_molini collected 31284 from pot
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